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Decima / Will Dockery (complete version)
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Will Dockery
2010-12-22 22:05:46 UTC
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Peter J Ross <***@example.invalid> wrote:

<snip for focus>
Actually, lying kook, you added in the "accidentally curtailed" claim
yourself.
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Feel free to explain the relevance of a chat between Dockery and Hammes in 2007
It is an archived posting of the unedited Decima poem of mine, for one
thing, PJR:

http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
I produce works of art...
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
-Will Dockery
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAaa.a.aa.a..a...
And so on...

--
"Shadowville Speedway" CD on Artemis Records:
http://www.artemisrecords.net/dockeryconley.html
George Dance
2010-12-22 22:17:09 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
<snip for focus>
Actually, lying kook, you added in the "accidentally curtailed" claim
yourself.
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Feel free to explain the relevance of a chat between Dockery and Hammes in 2007
It is an archived posting of the unedited Decima poem of mine, for one
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Yes; and it also contains the post in which Dennis Hammes snipped the
two lines. That's the version you quoted earlier. I can't blame you
for missing Dennis's post-editing; I'm sure the dea of post-editing
someone else's poem is one that would never occur to you. I doubt that
it would have occurred to me, except for the experience of PJ changing
all the line breaks of my "December" earlier in this thread.

I didn't even blame PJ for not catching that himself, and therefore
jumping to the wrong conclusion, at first. It's only after I gave him
the link showing him what happened, and he decided to cover up for
Dennis by accusing me of "lying" about it, that I put it down to his
dishonesty once again.
Post by Will Dockery
I produce works of art...
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
-Will Dockery
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAaa.a.aa.a..a...
And so on...
--
"Shadowville Speedway" CD on Artemis Records:http://www.artemisrecords.net/dockeryconley.html
Will Dockery
2010-12-23 01:14:42 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
<snip for focus>
Actually, lying kook, you added in the "accidentally curtailed" claim
yourself.
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Feel free to explain the relevance of a chat between Dockery and Hammes in 2007
It is an archived posting of the unedited Decima poem of mine, for one
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Yes; and it also contains the post in which Dennis Hammes snipped the
two lines. That's the version you quoted earlier. I can't blame you
for missing Dennis's post-editing; I'm sure the dea of post-editing
someone else's poem is one that would never occur to you. I doubt that
it would have occurred to me, except for the experience of PJ changing
all the line breaks of my "December" earlier in this thread.
I didn't even blame PJ for not catching that himself, and therefore
jumping to the wrong conclusion, at first. It's only after I gave him
the link showing him what happened, and he decided to cover up for
Dennis by accusing me of "lying" about it, that I put it down to his
dishonesty once again.
Bizarre move, one of many for Mister Hammes, of course.
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
--
"Shadowville Speedway" CD on Artemis Records:
http://www.artemisrecords.net/dockeryconley.html
Peter J Ross
2010-12-23 16:30:25 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:17:09 -0800 (PST),
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
<snip for focus>
Actually, lying kook, you added in the "accidentally curtailed" claim
yourself.
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Feel free to explain the relevance of a chat between Dockery and Hammes in 2007
It is an archived posting of the unedited Decima poem of mine, for one
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Yes; and it also contains the post in which Dennis Hammes snipped the
two lines. That's the version you quoted earlier. I can't blame you
for missing Dennis's post-editing; I'm sure the dea of post-editing
someone else's poem is one that would never occur to you.
You crack me up, Dunce. Who else could conceivably talk straight-faced
to the Dreckster as if there were any low trick of which his was
incapable?
Post by George Dance
I doubt that
it would have occurred to me, except for the experience of PJ changing
all the line breaks of my "December" earlier in this thread.
Awww, did I ruin the greatest poem you've ever written? Poor little
Duncie-boy!
Post by George Dance
I didn't even blame PJ for not catching that himself, and therefore
jumping to the wrong conclusion, at first. It's only after I gave him
the link showing him what happened, and he decided to cover up for
Dennis by accusing me of "lying" about it, that I put it down to his
dishonesty once again.
It's quite revealing that the Dreckster pasted in the eight-line
version of his drivel without noticing anything wrong with it.

It's also quite revealing that you're desperately trying to defend
him, even to the extent of trying to blame somebody who died many
months ago for what the Dreckster posted last week.
--
PJR :-)
Cythera
2010-12-23 17:19:41 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:17:09 -0800 (PST),
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
<snip for focus>
Actually, lying kook, you added in the "accidentally curtailed" claim
yourself.
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Feel free to explain the relevance of a chat between Dockery and Hammes in 2007
It is an archived posting of the unedited Decima poem of mine, for one
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Yes; and it also contains the post in which Dennis Hammes snipped the
two lines. That's the version you quoted earlier. I can't blame you
for missing Dennis's post-editing; I'm sure the dea of post-editing
someone else's poem is one that would never occur to you.
You crack me up, Dunce. Who else could conceivably talk straight-faced
to the Dreckster as if there were any low trick of which his was
incapable?
Post by George Dance
I doubt that
it would have occurred to me, except for the experience of PJ changing
all the line breaks of my "December" earlier in this thread.
Awww, did I ruin the greatest poem you've ever written? Poor little
Duncie-boy!
Post by George Dance
I didn't even blame PJ for not catching that himself, and therefore
jumping to the wrong conclusion, at first. It's only after I gave him
the link showing him what happened, and he decided to cover up for
Dennis by accusing me of "lying" about it, that I put it down to his
dishonesty once again.
It's quite revealing that the Dreckster pasted in the eight-line
version of his drivel without noticing anything wrong with it.
It's also quite revealing that you're desperately trying to defend
him, even to the extent of trying to blame somebody who died many
months ago for what the Dreckster posted last week.
Persons with dissociative personality disorder:
Markedly prone to blame others or to offer plausible
rationalizations for the behavior bringing the subject into conflict.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopath
Post by Peter J Ross
--
PJR :-)
Peter J Ross
2010-12-23 16:24:15 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:05:46 -0800 (PST),
Post by Will Dockery
<snip for focus>
Actually, lying kook, you added in the "accidentally curtailed" claim
yourself.
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Feel free to explain the relevance of a chat between Dockery and Hammes in 2007
It is an archived posting of the unedited Decima poem of mine,
So why did you cut two lines when you posted it recently? Was that
your first ever attempt at revising your "work", or was it just a
drunken mistake?

<doggerel snipped>
--
PJR :-)
George Dance
2010-12-23 18:43:37 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:05:46 -0800 (PST),
Post by Will Dockery
<snip for focus>
Actually, lying kook, you added in the "accidentally curtailed" claim
yourself.
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Feel free to explain the relevance of a chat between Dockery and Hammes in 2007
It is an archived posting of the unedited Decima poem of mine,
So why did you cut two lines when you posted it recently?
Your such a liar, PJ. It was actually your best bud (at the time)
Hammy Hog who cut those lines, as you were already told.
Peter J Ross
2010-12-29 14:33:24 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:43:37 -0800 (PST),
Post by George Dance
Your such a liar
Holiday's in the sun

<*whoosh*>
--
PJR :-)
Will Dockery
2010-12-23 16:53:18 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Feel free to explain the relevance of a chat between Dockery and Hammes in 2007
It is an archived posting of the unedited Decima poem of mine,
So why did you cut two lines
I didn't cut any lines, here it is as I wrote it:

Decima

Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.

-Will Dockery

--
"Shadowville Speedway" CD on Artemis Records:
http://www.artemisrecords.net/dockeryconley.html
Peter J Ross
2010-12-23 17:01:49 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:53:18 -0800 (PST),
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Peter J Ross
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Feel free to explain the relevance of a chat between Dockery and Hammes in 2007
It is an archived posting of the unedited Decima poem of mine,
So why did you cut two lines
I didn't cut any lines,
You did, as the links I've recently posted prove.

Why do you persist in lying even when everybody knows you're lying,
Dreckery?
--
PJR :-)
Will Dockery
2010-12-23 17:06:31 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
Post by Will Dockery
I didn't cut any lines,
You did
No, I didn't... apparently Dennis Hammes did:

http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html

Her is the unedited version:

Decima

Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.

-Will Dockery

--
Music & poetry by Will Dockery & Friends:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
Will Dockery
2010-12-23 17:08:09 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
Post by Will Dockery
I didn't cut any lines,
You did
No, I didn't... apparently Dennis Hammes did:

http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html

Here is the unedited version:

Decima

Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.

-Will Dockery

--
Music & poetry by Will Dockery & Friends:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
Cythera
2010-12-23 17:28:06 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
Post by Will Dockery
I didn't cut any lines,
You did
Probably it was george. He likes to steal things.

<snip>
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
-Will Dockery
--
Music & poetry by Will Dockery & Friends:http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
Will Dockery
2010-12-23 18:32:19 UTC
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Post by Cythera
Probably it was george. He likes to steal things.
You think about George a lot don't you, Cythera?
Post by Cythera
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
-Will Dockery
--
Music & poetry by Will Dockery & Friends:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
Peter J Ross
2010-12-29 14:28:58 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:06:31 -0800 (PST),
Post by Peter J Ross
Post by Will Dockery
I didn't cut any lines,
You did
Why do you persist in blaming a dead man for what *you* posted?
--
PJR :-)
Will Dockery
2010-12-23 17:30:19 UTC
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Cythera said:

<snip for focus>
Post by Cythera
Markedly prone to blame others
So that's your excuse for your constant casting of yourself as the
victim Cythera?
Post by Cythera
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Decima

Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.

-Will Dockery

--
Music & poetry by Will Dockery & Friends:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
Cythera
2010-12-23 17:56:46 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
<snip for focus>
     Markedly prone to blame others
So that's your excuse for your constant casting of yourself as the
victim Cythera?
Try posting sober, drunky.

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders fourth
edition, DSM IV-TR = 301.7, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental
disorders, defines [Drunkery's and george's] antisocial personality
disorder (in Axis II Cluster B) as:[1]

A) There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the
rights of others occurring for as long as either childhood, or in the
case of many who are influenced by environmental factors, around age
15, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:

1. failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors
as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for
arrest;

* 2. deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases,
or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
* 3. impulsivity or failure to plan ahead;
* 4. irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated
physical fights or [online] assaults;

5. reckless disregard for safety of self or others;

* 6. consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to
sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;
* 7. lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or
rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another;

8. promiscuity; [who'd have you]

* 9. having shallow or seemingly nonexistent feelings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopath

If you ever sober up, you should talk to a doctor, Dockery.
m@tt
2010-12-23 18:00:21 UTC
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little duck fucker! get it ,little duck fucker.

Isn't Dockery illiterate? Well then, whey are
you talking to him, little duck fucker??

Did you ever ask yourself that??
George Dance
2010-12-23 18:11:58 UTC
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little duck fucker!  get it ,little duck fucker.
Isn't Dockery illiterate?  Well then, whey are
you talking to him, little duck fucker??
Did you ever ask yourself that??
Slymera & the SP think that popping around the group calling everyone
else "illiterate" is the way to appear educated. They've been doing
that for years.

It's in the archives. 8)
m@tt
2010-12-23 18:18:43 UTC
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Post by George Dance
little duck fucker!  get it ,little duck fucker.
Isn't Dockery illiterate?  Well then, whey are
you talking to him, little duck fucker??
Did you ever ask yourself that??
Slymera & the SP think that popping around the group calling everyone
else "illiterate" is the way to appear educated. They've been doing
that for years.
It's in the archives. 8)
I don't mind a stupid flame. But, people
that go after Dockery, and think they're
being fresh or original, get on my online nerves.

That's why the whole "duck fucking" rant.

: )
George Dance
2010-12-23 18:53:30 UTC
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Post by George Dance
little duck fucker!  get it ,little duck fucker.
Isn't Dockery illiterate?  Well then, whey are
you talking to him, little duck fucker??
Did you ever ask yourself that??
Slymera & the SP think that popping around the group calling everyone
else "illiterate" is the way to appear educated. They've been doing
that for years.
It's in the archives. 8)
I don't mind a stupid flame.  But, people
that go after Dockery, and think they're
being fresh or original, get on my online nerves.
Agreed. Will's what he is: as the Landmark Institute would say,
"perfect and whole." There's nothing anyone else can do about it.
That's why the whole "duck fucking" rant.
I think it's wonderful. And you've given me an idea. Assuming the SP
wiki ("SP-dia") ever gets off the ground, it needs an article on "duck
fucking". That's a huge story in itself.
:  )
Will Dockery
2010-12-23 21:49:21 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Post by George Dance
Slymera & the SP think that popping around the group calling everyone
else "illiterate" is the way to appear educated. They've been doing
that for years.
It's in the archives. 8)
I don't mind a stupid flame.  But, people
that go after Dockery, and think they're
being fresh or original, get on my online nerves.
Agreed. Will's what he is: as the Landmark Institute would say,
"perfect and whole." There's nothing anyone else can do about it.
That's why the whole "duck fucking" rant.
I think it's wonderful. And you've given me an idea. Assuming the SP
wiki ("SP-dia") ever gets off the ground, it needs an article on "duck
fucking". That's a huge story in itself.> :  )
"Indeed.. -Marg/Pandora (who would certainly deserve an entry in such
a Wiki, as a member of good standing on *both* sides of the fence at
one time or another!)

--
Black Crow's Brother / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:

Will Dockery
2010-12-24 22:01:36 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Slymera & the SP
"God bless us every one." -Tiny Tim
Post by George Dance
It's in the archives. 8)
Indeed, my friends!

And as our traditional Usenet X-Mas Truce begins... here's to a happy
holiday for you & yours, Mister Dance!

Now drink, dance & be merry, see y'all soon!
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
-Will Dockery
--
"Shadowville Speedway" CD on Artemis Records:
http://www.artemisrecords.net/dockeryconley.html
George Dance
2010-12-24 22:47:32 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
"God bless us every one." -Tiny Tim
Post by George Dance
It's in the archives. 8)
Indeed, my friends!
And as our traditional Usenet X-Mas Truce begins... here's to a happy
holiday for you & yours, Mister Dance!
Same right back atcha, Mr. Dockery.
Post by Will Dockery
Now drink, dance & be merry, see y'all soon!
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
-Will Dockery
--
"Shadowville Speedway" CD on Artemis Records:http://www.artemisrecords.net/dockeryconley.html
Peter J Ross
2010-12-29 14:58:53 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 24 Dec 2010 14:47:32 -0800 (PST),
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
"God bless us every one." -Tiny Tim
Post by George Dance
It's in the archives. 8)
Indeed, my friends!
And as our traditional Usenet X-Mas Truce begins... here's to a happy
holiday for you & yours, Mister Dance!
Same right back atcha, Mr. Dockery.
I foresee exchanges of bodily fluids in the near future.

Yeuch!

There is, of course, no Traditional Christmas Truce between decent
people and scum like Dunce and Dreckery.

I haven't been checking the dates on their posts, but wouldn't it be a
great Christmas treat for every decent human being who participates in
Usenet if both Dunce and Dreckery were dead now?
--
PJR :-)
c&c
2010-12-29 19:13:05 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 24 Dec 2010 14:47:32 -0800 (PST),
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
"God bless us every one." -Tiny Tim
Post by George Dance
It's in the archives. 8)
Indeed, my friends!
And as our traditional Usenet X-Mas Truce begins... here's to a happy
holiday for you & yours, Mister Dance!
Same right back atcha, Mr. Dockery.
I foresee exchanges of bodily fluids in the near future.
Yeuch!
There is, of course, no Traditional Christmas Truce between decent
people and scum like Dunce and Dreckery.
I haven't been checking the dates on their posts, but wouldn't it be a
great Christmas treat for every decent human being who participates in
Usenet if both Dunce and Dreckery were dead now?
--
PJR :-)
This is, of course, comment of reciprocal concern. Imagine the
paradox; blow your own mind.
Will Dockery
2010-12-29 18:46:34 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
"God bless us every one." -Tiny Tim
Post by George Dance
It's in the archives. 8)
Indeed, my friends!
And as our traditional Usenet X-Mas Truce begins... here's to a happy
holiday for you & yours, Mister Dance!
Same right back atcha, Mr. Dockery.
Well, so much for the "traditional Usenet X-Mas Truce"... heh.
Post by George Dance
Now drink, dance & be merry, see y'all soon!
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
-Will Dockery
--
"Shadowville Speedway" CD on Artemis Records:
http://www.artemisrecords.net/dockeryconley.html
c&c
2010-12-29 19:05:25 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
"God bless us every one." -Tiny Tim
Post by George Dance
It's in the archives. 8)
Indeed, my friends!
And as our traditional Usenet X-Mas Truce begins... here's to a happy
holiday for you & yours, Mister Dance!
Same right back atcha, Mr. Dockery.
Well, so much for the "traditional Usenet X-Mas Truce"... heh.
How much is so much? Is so much exactly that much, or are you just
saying so much about so much. Do you mean to to say you've had enough
of the truce, or that you just can't handle the truce? It's not
apparent to me that you have any idea what the truce is, but I'll give
you benefit of the doubt since you you've said so much about it.
Either way, feel free to not have to tell the truce anymore. If
telling the truce is that hard for you, by all means stop telling the
truce. I don't think it should feel like an effort, or a burden to
tell the truce. I can tell the truce here all by myself, if I have
to. Of course, it wouldn't make much sense to, but I could if I
wanted to, just so you know. I'm still trucing here.
Peter J Ross
2010-12-29 14:34:19 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:30:19 -0800 (PST),
Post by Will Dockery
<snip for focus>
Post by Cythera
Markedly prone to blame others
So that's your excuse for your constant casting of yourself as the
victim Cythera?
I K Y A B W A I ?
--
PJR :-)
Will Dockery
2010-12-23 23:49:13 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Post by Peter J Ross
So why did you cut two lines when you posted it recently?
Your such a liar, PJ. It was actually your best bud (at the time)
Hammy Hog who cut those lines, as you were already told.
PJR seems to be having a bit of a comprehension problem tonight...too much
egg nog?
Post by George Dance
Post by Peter J Ross
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
-Will Dockery
--
?"Christmas comes only once a year
why can't anybody shed just one tear
for things that don't happen all through the night?" -Lou Reed
http://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery
Will Dockery
2010-12-24 03:33:33 UTC
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Post by Cythera
Try posting sober
Okay, Cythera, I'm sober... now what?

By the way, your self-proclaimed mind reading abilities are faulty
again.
Post by Cythera
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
-Will Dockery
Have a nice holiday, Cythera.

--
"Corning Town" / Will Dockery & Brian Mallard

Peter J Ross
2010-12-29 15:00:32 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
I'm sober...
And I am Marie of Roumania!
--
PJR :-)
Will Dockery
2010-12-29 19:21:27 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
what *you* posted?
http://www.bookforumz.com/Dockeryftopic-39144-days0-orderasc-60.html
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
-Will Dockery
HTH & HANholiday, PJR!

--
Little Homeless Clown by Will Dockery & Henry Conley recorded live at
Del Ranch, December 2010.
http://www.archive.org/details/LittleHomelessClownWillDockeryHenryConley
c&c
2010-12-29 20:27:24 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
what *you* posted?
Actually, what you wrote was a False Decima, which is not entirely
unlike a False Dilemma which is presently being discussed in another
thread, which is really kind of ironical, if you think about it in
just the right ironical kind of way of course.
Will Dockery
2010-12-29 20:36:20 UTC
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Post by c&c
Actually, what you wrote was a False Decima
How so? Here's he poem, can you show me why you think that?

Decima

Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.

-Will Dockery

Either way, thanks for reading and giving your opinion.

--
Little Homeless Clown by Will Dockery & Henry Conley recorded live at
Del Ranch, December 2010.
http://www.archive.org/details/LittleHomelessClownWillDockeryHenryConley
c&c
2010-12-29 21:04:46 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by c&c
Actually, what you wrote was a False Decima
How so? Here's he poem, can you show me why you think that?
Sure, because it reads like a joke, like a parody of itself, like it
presumes itself to be the definitive dodo decima. It's not 'bad' so
much as it's funny. What makes it so much funnier is that you wrote
it meaning to be serious, which isn't meant to belittle, but to
recognize that you took the exercise seriously and didn't catch the
joke you were making. I'm sorry, but you're so deadpan it just cracks
me up. I love that about you; that you can crack me up without
meaning to.

As a draft, your poem could be well worked into a solid B+. If you
submitted it for grade without revision, you'd fail the assignment.
That's just my opinion, of course. I'm not your teacher, but I can
show you something I wrote a few years ago that I think is along the
same vein in that it is similarly self-parodical, a False Villanelle.

A villanelle is difficult to write
unless one chooses to do it this way -
Put pen to paper; Let the mind take flight.

Many have struggled through just such a plight,
and left in a state of utter dismay.
A villanelle is difficult to write.

People may say that such verse is a blight
on literary landscapes of the day.
Put pen to paper; Let the mind take flight.

Show all the glory of written word might,
how function and form struggle in this way,
A villanelle is difficult to write.

Adversity strengthens those who will fight,
and your invitation to join the fray:
Put pen to paper; Let the mind takes flight.

At times all too frequent, the words sound trite,
so the only thing I have left to say:
A villanelle is difficult to write.
Put pen to paper. Let the mind takes flight.
Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
Will Dockery
2010-12-29 22:03:08 UTC
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Post by c&c
Post by Will Dockery
Post by c&c
Actually, what you wrote was a False Decima
How so? Here's he poem, can you show me why you think that?
Sure, because it reads like a joke, like a parody of itself, like it
presumes itself to be the definitive dodo decima. It's not 'bad' so
it meaning to be serious, which isn't meant to belittle, but to
recognize that you took the exercise seriously and didn't catch the
joke you were making. I'm sorry, but you're so deadpan it just cracks
me up. I love that about you; that you can crack me up without
meaning to.
As a draft, your poem could be well worked into a solid B+. If you
submitted it for grade without revision, you'd fail the assignment.
That's just my opinion, of course. I'm not your teacher, but I can
show you something I wrote a few years ago that I think is along the
same vein in that it is similarly self-parodical, a False Villanelle.
A villanelle is difficult to write
unless one chooses to do it this way -
Put pen to paper; Let the mind take flight.
Many have struggled through just such a plight,
and left in a state of utter dismay.
A villanelle is difficult to write.
People may say that such verse is a blight
on literary landscapes of the day.
Put pen to paper; Let the mind take flight.
Show all the glory of written word might,
how function and form struggle in this way,
A villanelle is difficult to write.
Adversity strengthens those who will fight,
Put pen to paper; Let the mind takes flight.
At times all too frequent, the words sound trite,
A villanelle is difficult to write.
Put pen to paper. Let the mind takes flight.
Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
Well, thanks! And I mean that sincerely...I really intend to get a friend to
print your commentary out for me so I can take it with me to the coffee
shop, et cetera where I do my actual creative writing and attempt another
coupe of Decima with our comments in mind.

And to close this on another possibly funny note, probably not many of you
are aware of the finished form the piece has taken... a Country & Western
song.

I kid you not:
--
Ladonia Looks So Cold / Recorded live at Del Ranch, Smith's Station Alabama,
2010.
http://www.archive.org/details/LadoniaLooksSoCold
c&c
2010-12-29 22:22:36 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by c&c
Post by Will Dockery
Post by c&c
Actually, what you wrote was a False Decima
How so? Here's he poem, can you show me why you think that?
Sure, because it reads like a joke, like a parody of itself, like it
presumes itself to be the definitive dodo decima.  It's not 'bad' so
it meaning to be serious, which isn't meant to belittle, but to
recognize that you took the exercise seriously and didn't catch the
joke you were making.  I'm sorry, but you're so deadpan it just cracks
me up.  I love that about you; that you can crack me up without
meaning to.
As a draft, your poem could be well worked into a solid B+.  If you
submitted it for grade without revision, you'd fail the assignment.
That's just my opinion, of course.  I'm not your teacher, but I can
show you something I wrote a few years ago that I think is along the
same vein in that it is similarly self-parodical, a False Villanelle.
A villanelle is difficult to write
unless one chooses to do it this way -
Put pen to paper; Let the mind take flight.
Many have struggled through just such a plight,
and left in a state of utter dismay.
A villanelle is difficult to write.
People may say that such verse is a blight
on literary landscapes of the day.
Put pen to paper; Let the mind take flight.
Show all the glory of written word might,
how function and form struggle in this way,
A villanelle is difficult to write.
Adversity strengthens those who will fight,
Put pen to paper; Let the mind takes flight.
At times all too frequent, the words sound trite,
A villanelle is difficult to write.
Put pen to paper. Let the mind takes flight.
Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
Well, thanks! And I mean that sincerely...I really intend to get a friend to
print your commentary out for me so I can take it with me to the coffee
shop, et cetera where I do my actual creative writing and attempt another
coupe of Decima with our comments in mind.
Whatever. You could even get up on stage and read some of my other
whatever you want to call it rhyming type stuff. In fact, I think
that would be very funnily ironical, or at least something that's very
laughable. I know you'd get a laugh, and who knows, it might catch
on. Laughter is very contagious this time of year.
Will Dockery
2010-12-29 22:40:52 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by c&c
Sure, because it reads like a joke, like a parody of itself, like it
presumes itself to be the definitive dodo decima.  It's not 'bad' so
it meaning to be serious, which isn't meant to belittle, but to
recognize that you took the exercise seriously and didn't catch the
joke you were making.  I'm sorry, but you're so deadpan it just cracks
me up.  I love that about you; that you can crack me up without
meaning to.
As a draft, your poem could be well worked into a solid B+.  If you
submitted it for grade without revision, you'd fail the assignment.
That's just my opinion, of course.  I'm not your teacher, but I can
show you something I wrote a few years ago that I think is along the
same vein in that it is similarly self-parodical, a False Villanelle.
A villanelle is difficult to write
unless one chooses to do it this way -
Put pen to paper; Let the mind take flight.
Many have struggled through just such a plight,
and left in a state of utter dismay.
A villanelle is difficult to write.
People may say that such verse is a blight
on literary landscapes of the day.
Put pen to paper; Let the mind take flight.
Show all the glory of written word might,
how function and form struggle in this way,
A villanelle is difficult to write.
Adversity strengthens those who will fight,
Put pen to paper; Let the mind takes flight.
At times all too frequent, the words sound trite,
A villanelle is difficult to write.
Put pen to paper. Let the mind takes flight.
Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
Well, thanks! And I mean that sincerely...I really intend to get a friend to
print your commentary out for me so I can take it with me to the coffee
shop, et cetera where I do my actual creative writing and attempt another
coupe of Decima with our comments in mind.
Whatever.  You could even get up on stage and read some of my other
whatever you want to call it rhyming type stuff.  In fact, I think
that would be very funnily ironical, or at least something that's very
laughable.  I know you'd get a laugh, and who knows, it might catch
on.  Laughter is very contagious this time of year.
Hey, that reminds me of somehing you once posted but quickly deleted
before I could resond, something about recording my readings of your
poetry?

--
Ladonia Looks So Cold / Recorded live at Del Ranch, Smith's Station
Alabama, 2010.
http://www.archive.org/details/LadoniaLooksSoCold
c&c
2010-12-29 23:52:48 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
Post by c&c
Sure, because it reads like a joke, like a parody of itself, like it
presumes itself to be the definitive dodo decima.  It's not 'bad' so
it meaning to be serious, which isn't meant to belittle, but to
recognize that you took the exercise seriously and didn't catch the
joke you were making.  I'm sorry, but you're so deadpan it just cracks
me up.  I love that about you; that you can crack me up without
meaning to.
As a draft, your poem could be well worked into a solid B+.  If you
submitted it for grade without revision, you'd fail the assignment.
That's just my opinion, of course.  I'm not your teacher, but I can
show you something I wrote a few years ago that I think is along the
same vein in that it is similarly self-parodical, a False Villanelle.
A villanelle is difficult to write
unless one chooses to do it this way -
Put pen to paper; Let the mind take flight.
Many have struggled through just such a plight,
and left in a state of utter dismay.
A villanelle is difficult to write.
People may say that such verse is a blight
on literary landscapes of the day.
Put pen to paper; Let the mind take flight.
Show all the glory of written word might,
how function and form struggle in this way,
A villanelle is difficult to write.
Adversity strengthens those who will fight,
Put pen to paper; Let the mind takes flight.
At times all too frequent, the words sound trite,
A villanelle is difficult to write.
Put pen to paper. Let the mind takes flight.
Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
Well, thanks! And I mean that sincerely...I really intend to get a friend to
print your commentary out for me so I can take it with me to the coffee
shop, et cetera where I do my actual creative writing and attempt another
coupe of Decima with our comments in mind.
Whatever.  You could even get up on stage and read some of my other
whatever you want to call it rhyming type stuff.  In fact, I think
that would be very funnily ironical, or at least something that's very
laughable.  I know you'd get a laugh, and who knows, it might catch
on.  Laughter is very contagious this time of year.
Hey, that reminds me of somehing you once posted but quickly deleted
before I could resond, something about recording my readings of your
poetry?
Yeah, sure whatever. You could do that too. No worries.
Will Dockery
2011-01-02 01:55:45 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by c&c
Sure, because it reads like a joke, like a parody of itself, like it
presumes itself to be the definitive dodo decima.  It's not 'bad' so
it meaning to be serious, which isn't meant to belittle, but to
recognize that you took the exercise seriously and didn't catch the
joke you were making.  I'm sorry, but you're so deadpan it just cracks
me up.  I love that about you; that you can crack me up without
meaning to.
As a draft, your poem could be well worked into a solid B+.  If you
submitted it for grade without revision, you'd fail the assignment.
That's just my opinion, of course.  I'm not your teacher, but I can
show you something I wrote a few years ago that I think is along the
same vein in that it is similarly self-parodical, a False Villanelle.
A villanelle is difficult to write
unless one chooses to do it this way -
Put pen to paper; Let the mind take flight.
Many have struggled through just such a plight,
and left in a state of utter dismay.
A villanelle is difficult to write.
People may say that such verse is a blight
on literary landscapes of the day.
Put pen to paper; Let the mind take flight.
Show all the glory of written word might,
how function and form struggle in this way,
A villanelle is difficult to write.
Adversity strengthens those who will fight,
Put pen to paper; Let the mind takes flight.
At times all too frequent, the words sound trite,
A villanelle is difficult to write.
Put pen to paper. Let the mind takes flight.
Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
Well, thanks! And I mean that sincerely...I really intend to get a friend to
print your commentary out for me so I can take it with me to the coffee
shop, et cetera where I do my actual creative writing and attempt another
coupe of Decima with our comments in mind.
Whatever.  You could even get up on stage and read some of my other
whatever you want to call it rhyming type stuff.  In fact, I think
that would be very funnily ironical, or at least something that's very
laughable.  I know you'd get a laugh, and who knows, it might catch
on.  Laughter is very contagious this time of year.
Hey, that reminds me of somehing you once posted but quickly deleted
before I could respond, something about recording my readings of your poetry?
Yeah, sure whatever.  You could do that too.  No worries.
Okay, something to discuss in 2011...

--
Music & poetry by Will Dockery:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
c&c
2011-01-02 03:04:34 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
Post by c&c
Sure, because it reads like a joke, like a parody of itself, like it
presumes itself to be the definitive dodo decima.  It's not 'bad' so
it meaning to be serious, which isn't meant to belittle, but to
recognize that you took the exercise seriously and didn't catch the
joke you were making.  I'm sorry, but you're so deadpan it just cracks
me up.  I love that about you; that you can crack me up without
meaning to.
As a draft, your poem could be well worked into a solid B+.  If you
submitted it for grade without revision, you'd fail the assignment.
That's just my opinion, of course.  I'm not your teacher, but I can
show you something I wrote a few years ago that I think is along the
same vein in that it is similarly self-parodical, a False Villanelle.
A villanelle is difficult to write
unless one chooses to do it this way -
Put pen to paper; Let the mind take flight.
Many have struggled through just such a plight,
and left in a state of utter dismay.
A villanelle is difficult to write.
People may say that such verse is a blight
on literary landscapes of the day.
Put pen to paper; Let the mind take flight.
Show all the glory of written word might,
how function and form struggle in this way,
A villanelle is difficult to write.
Adversity strengthens those who will fight,
Put pen to paper; Let the mind takes flight.
At times all too frequent, the words sound trite,
A villanelle is difficult to write.
Put pen to paper. Let the mind takes flight.
Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
Well, thanks! And I mean that sincerely...I really intend to get a friend to
print your commentary out for me so I can take it with me to the coffee
shop, et cetera where I do my actual creative writing and attempt another
coupe of Decima with our comments in mind.
Whatever.  You could even get up on stage and read some of my other
whatever you want to call it rhyming type stuff.  In fact, I think
that would be very funnily ironical, or at least something that's very
laughable.  I know you'd get a laugh, and who knows, it might catch
on.  Laughter is very contagious this time of year.
Hey, that reminds me of somehing you once posted but quickly deleted
before I could respond, something about recording my readings of your poetry?
Yeah, sure whatever.  You could do that too.  No worries.
Okay, something to discuss in 2011...
You'll have to be a bit more specific. We can discuss it now, or we
can wait a while. For my part, I'd be honored if you'd read and/or
record anything I've written. Whatever sense you can make of any of
my gobbledy-poems is fine by me. If you want to read them serious, or
all ironical like is entirely up to you. I've posted stuff here, and
there's stuff on my blog. Anything you take a fancy to, please help
yourself. If you want some help or suggestions, just say so, but I
know you'll do a great job with them either way. Thanks for your time.
Will Dockery
2011-01-02 18:36:12 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
Well, thanks! And I mean that sincerely...I really intend to get a friend to
print your commentary out for me so I can take it with me to the coffee
shop, et cetera where I do my actual creative writing and attempt another
coupe of Decima with our comments in mind.
Whatever.  You could even get up on stage and read some of my other
whatever you want to call it rhyming type stuff.  In fact, I think
that would be very funnily ironical, or at least something that's very
laughable.  I know you'd get a laugh, and who knows, it might catch
on.  Laughter is very contagious this time of year.
Hey, that reminds me of somehing you once posted but quickly deleted
before I could respond, something about recording my readings of your poetry?
Yeah, sure whatever.  You could do that too.  No worries.
Okay, something to discuss in 2011...
You'll have to be a bit more specific.  We can discuss it now, or we
can wait a while.  For my part, I'd be honored if you'd read and/or
record anything I've written.  Whatever sense you can make of any of
my gobbledy-poems is fine by me.  If you want to read them serious, or
all ironical like is entirely up to you.  I've posted stuff here, and
there's stuff on my blog.  Anything you take a fancy to, please help
yourself.  If you want some help or suggestions, just say so, but I
know you'll do a great job with them either way.  Thanks for your time.
My first thought when it came up, speaking of specific, was did you
have any specific (that may not be the right word) piece of yours in
mind when you first mentioned the idea?

--
Music & poetry of Will Dockery:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
George Dance
2011-01-02 18:47:41 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
Well, thanks! And I mean that sincerely...I really intend to get a friend to
print your commentary out for me so I can take it with me to the coffee
shop, et cetera where I do my actual creative writing and attempt another
coupe of Decima with our comments in mind.
Whatever.  You could even get up on stage and read some of my other
whatever you want to call it rhyming type stuff.  In fact, I think
that would be very funnily ironical, or at least something that's very
laughable.  I know you'd get a laugh, and who knows, it might catch
on.  Laughter is very contagious this time of year.
Hey, that reminds me of somehing you once posted but quickly deleted
before I could respond, something about recording my readings of your poetry?
Yeah, sure whatever.  You could do that too.  No worries.
Okay, something to discuss in 2011...
You'll have to be a bit more specific.  We can discuss it now, or we
can wait a while.  For my part, I'd be honored if you'd read and/or
record anything I've written.  Whatever sense you can make of any of
my gobbledy-poems is fine by me.  If you want to read them serious, or
all ironical like is entirely up to you.  I've posted stuff here, and
there's stuff on my blog.  Anything you take a fancy to, please help
yourself.  If you want some help or suggestions, just say so, but I
know you'll do a great job with them either way.  Thanks for your time.
My first thought when it came up, speaking of specific, was did you
have any specific (that may not be the right word) piece of yours in
mind when you first mentioned the idea?
No. Come on, Will: he's asking you to go through his work and pick a
piece; assuming that you're familiar with some of his work, or that
you will become so in the course of picking. That's what every writer
wants, readers who know (some of) their writing; I think you know
that.
Post by Will Dockery
--
Music & poetry of Will Dockery:http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
Will Dockery
2011-01-02 19:03:54 UTC
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Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
Well, thanks! And I mean that sincerely...I really intend to get a friend to
print your commentary out for me so I can take it with me to the coffee
shop, et cetera where I do my actual creative writing and attempt another
coupe of Decima with our comments in mind.
Whatever.  You could even get up on stage and read some of my other
whatever you want to call it rhyming type stuff.  In fact, I think
that would be very funnily ironical, or at least something that's very
laughable.  I know you'd get a laugh, and who knows, it might catch
on.  Laughter is very contagious this time of year.
Hey, that reminds me of somehing you once posted but quickly deleted
before I could respond, something about recording my readings of your poetry?
Yeah, sure whatever.  You could do that too.  No worries.
Okay, something to discuss in 2011...
You'll have to be a bit more specific.  We can discuss it now, or we
can wait a while.  For my part, I'd be honored if you'd read and/or
record anything I've written.  Whatever sense you can make of any of
my gobbledy-poems is fine by me.  If you want to read them serious, or
all ironical like is entirely up to you.  I've posted stuff here, and
there's stuff on my blog.  Anything you take a fancy to, please help
yourself.  If you want some help or suggestions, just say so, but I
know you'll do a great job with them either way.  Thanks for your time.
My first thought when it came up, speaking of specific, was did you
have any specific (that may not be the right word) piece of yours in
mind when you first mentioned the idea?
No. Come on, Will: he's asking you to go through his work and pick a
piece; assuming that you're familiar with some of his work, or that
you will become so in the course of picking. That's what every writer
wants, readers who know (some of) their writing; I think you know that.
Yes, and I'm reminded that yet another year has gone by without my
completing the long-promised "Country Woman" song... jeeze, the years
clip by so fast & there's always some new thing I'm working on. I
thought of that when reading this, as a matter of fact, and the one I
wanted to do with Blackpool Jimmy that I never got to. In fact, the
only project of this sort that actually materialized was the Zorro
piece with Benders, and that just happened to fall into place almost
immediately:



So, while these side-project collaborations look easy and interesting,
fitting them in with everything else going on can be difficult,
possibly impossible in the end, and I guess I should state that from
the get-go.

--
Music & poetry of Will Dockery:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
George Dance
2011-01-02 19:24:35 UTC
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Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
Well, thanks! And I mean that sincerely...I really intend to get a friend to
print your commentary out for me so I can take it with me to the coffee
shop, et cetera where I do my actual creative writing and attempt another
coupe of Decima with our comments in mind.
Whatever.  You could even get up on stage and read some of my other
whatever you want to call it rhyming type stuff.  In fact, I think
that would be very funnily ironical, or at least something that's very
laughable.  I know you'd get a laugh, and who knows, it might catch
on.  Laughter is very contagious this time of year.
Hey, that reminds me of somehing you once posted but quickly deleted
before I could respond, something about recording my readings of your poetry?
Yeah, sure whatever.  You could do that too.  No worries.
Okay, something to discuss in 2011...
You'll have to be a bit more specific.  We can discuss it now, or we
can wait a while.  For my part, I'd be honored if you'd read and/or
record anything I've written.  Whatever sense you can make of any of
my gobbledy-poems is fine by me.  If you want to read them serious, or
all ironical like is entirely up to you.  I've posted stuff here, and
there's stuff on my blog.  Anything you take a fancy to, please help
yourself.  If you want some help or suggestions, just say so, but I
know you'll do a great job with them either way.  Thanks for your time.
My first thought when it came up, speaking of specific, was did you
have any specific (that may not be the right word) piece of yours in
mind when you first mentioned the idea?
No. Come on, Will: he's asking you to go through his work and pick a
piece; assuming that you're familiar with some of his work, or that
you will become so in the course of picking. That's what every writer
wants, readers who know (some of) their writing; I think you know that.
Yes, and I'm reminded that yet another year has gone by without my
completing the long-promised "Country Woman" song... jeeze, the years
clip by so fast & there's always some new thing I'm working on. I
thought of that when reading this, as a matter of fact, and the one I
wanted to do with Blackpool Jimmy that I never got to. In fact, the
only project of this sort that actually materialized was the Zorro
piece with Benders, and that just happened to fall into place almost
http://youtu.be/G64jUD1tRRA
So, while these side-project collaborations look easy and interesting,
fitting them in with everything else going on can be difficult,
possibly impossible in the end, and I guess I should state that from
the get-go.
It's reasonable to think that a project based on an idea of your own,
or of someone you're in contact with, would get priority. It's
possible that the Zorro proect just came along at the right place and
time, when there wasn't anything competing; that would explain why it
happened "almost immediately."

I guess the thing to do is not consider such projects as binding, as
intentions rather than commitments. You put it aside till you're ready
to work on it; by the same token, if someone else comes along who
wants to work on it now, I'll give it to him.

If you're agreeable to that, I'll throw a second song into the mix:
"Always There." Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.

For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
Post by Will Dockery
--
Music & poetry of Will Dockery:http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
Will Dockery
2011-01-02 23:14:40 UTC
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Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
<snip for brevity>
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
No. Come on, Will: he's asking you to go through his work and pick a
piece; assuming that you're familiar with some of his work, or that
you will become so in the course of picking. That's what every writer
wants, readers who know (some of) their writing; I think you know that.
Yes, and I'm reminded that yet another year has gone by without my
completing the long-promised "Country Woman" song... jeeze, the years
clip by so fast & there's always some new thing I'm working on. I
thought of that when reading this, as a matter of fact, and the one I
wanted to do with Blackpool Jimmy that I never got to. In fact, the
only project of this sort that actually materialized was the Zorro
piece with Benders, and that just happened to fall into place almost
http://youtu.be/G64jUD1tRRA
So, while these side-project collaborations look easy and interesting,
fitting them in with everything else going on can be difficult,
possibly impossible in the end, and I guess I should state that from
the get-go.
It's reasonable to think that a project based on an idea of your own,
or of someone you're in contact with, would get priority. It's
possible that the Zorro proect just came along at the right place and
time, when there wasn't anything competing; that would explain why it
happened "almost immediately."
You nailed it, there, I think, George, things tend to come together
fast on a song we're feeling, and it really is easier to just write
our own than trying to copy someone else.

Which is why I'm confounded at these folks here who seem to think
having an original thought is such a chore.
Post by George Dance
I guess the thing to do is not consider such projects as binding, as
intentions rather than commitments. You put it aside till you're ready
to work on it; by the same token, if someone else comes along who
wants to work on it now, I'll give it to him.
"Always There." Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.
Sort of the way we handle things best vis-a-vis humor, et cetera...
the deadpan C&W tragedy that Corey may have nailed in my style.
Post by George Dance
For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
I'd like very much to have the opportunity to have a shot at that
one... is "Always There" already in the archives, here?

--
Music & poetry of Will Dockery:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
George Dance
2011-01-05 00:23:06 UTC
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Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
<snip for brevity>
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
No. Come on, Will: he's asking you to go through his work and pick a
piece; assuming that you're familiar with some of his work, or that
you will become so in the course of picking. That's what every writer
wants, readers who know (some of) their writing; I think you know that.
Yes, and I'm reminded that yet another year has gone by without my
completing the long-promised "Country Woman" song... jeeze, the years
clip by so fast & there's always some new thing I'm working on. I
thought of that when reading this, as a matter of fact, and the one I
wanted to do with Blackpool Jimmy that I never got to. In fact, the
only project of this sort that actually materialized was the Zorro
piece with Benders, and that just happened to fall into place almost
http://youtu.be/G64jUD1tRRA
So, while these side-project collaborations look easy and interesting,
fitting them in with everything else going on can be difficult,
possibly impossible in the end, and I guess I should state that from
the get-go.
It's reasonable to think that a project based on an idea of your own,
or of someone you're in contact with, would get priority. It's
possible that the Zorro proect just came along at the right place and
time, when there wasn't anything competing; that would explain why it
happened "almost immediately."
You nailed it, there, I think, George, things tend to come together
fast on a song we're feeling, and it really is easier to just write
our own than trying to copy someone else.
Which is why I'm confounded at these folks here who seem to think
having an original thought is such a chore.
Post by George Dance
I guess the thing to do is not consider such projects as binding, as
intentions rather than commitments. You put it aside till you're ready
to work on it; by the same token, if someone else comes along who
wants to work on it now, I'll give it to him.
"Always There." Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.
Sort of the way we handle things best vis-a-vis humor, et cetera...
the deadpan C&W tragedy that Corey may have nailed in my style.
Post by George Dance
For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
I'd like very much to have the opportunity to have a shot at that
one... is "Always There" already in the archives, here?
--
Music & poetry of Will Dockery:http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
Yes; it's been on usenet:

https://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/f9f031de2577a0f4

but I see that at least one line is different (and I can't see a later
posting), so here's a link to the definitive version, on TBB:

http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/always-there-george-dance.html
Will Dockery
2011-01-05 00:57:56 UTC
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Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
<snip for brevity>
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
No. Come on, Will: he's asking you to go through his work and pick a
piece; assuming that you're familiar with some of his work, or that
you will become so in the course of picking. That's what every writer
wants, readers who know (some of) their writing; I think you know that.
Which of Corey's poems are you using for your April Blog?
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Yes, and I'm reminded that yet another year has gone by without my
completing the long-promised "Country Woman" song... jeeze, the years
clip by so fast & there's always some new thing I'm working on. I
thought of that when reading this, as a matter of fact, and the one I
wanted to do with Blackpool Jimmy that I never got to. In fact, the
only project of this sort that actually materialized was the Zorro
piece with Benders, and that just happened to fall into place almost
http://youtu.be/G64jUD1tRRA
So, while these side-project collaborations look easy and interesting,
fitting them in with everything else going on can be difficult,
possibly impossible in the end, and I guess I should state that from
the get-go.
It's reasonable to think that a project based on an idea of your own,
or of someone you're in contact with, would get priority. It's
possible that the Zorro project just came along at the right place and
time, when there wasn't anything competing; that would explain why it
happened "almost immediately."
You nailed it, there, I think, George, things tend to come together
fast on a song we're feeling, and it really is easier to just write
our own than trying to copy someone else.
Which is why I'm confounded at these folks here who seem to think
having an original thought is such a chore.
Post by George Dance
I guess the thing to do is not consider such projects as binding, as
intentions rather than commitments. You put it aside till you're ready
to work on it; by the same token, if someone else comes along who
wants to work on it now, I'll give it to him.
"Always There." Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.
Sort of the way we handle things best vis-a-vis humor, et cetera...
the deadpan C&W tragedy that Corey may have nailed in my style.
Post by George Dance
For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
I'd like very much to have the opportunity to have a shot at that
one... is "Always There" already in the archives, here?
--
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/f9f031de...
but I see that at least one line is different (and I can't see a later
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/always-there-george-dance.html
I'll have a look... do I have some leeway on the melody or are you
dead set on a melody for it already?

--
Will Dockery & Friends live performance:

70*7
2011-01-05 01:25:14 UTC
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Which of Corey's poems are you using for your April Blog?
This one. It's an updated, updated, updated version of an old
standard.

A Villanelle Ain't Easy To Write (in my opinion, of course).

A villanelle ain't easy to write
unless y'all chooses to do it my way.
Press them keys, if you please. Let y'alls minds take flight!

I know some have struggled through exactly that plight,
and gone off in a state of utter dismay,
'cause a villanelle ain't easy to write.

Some folks have said my poems is a blight
on Usenet, and paper. Still, every day
I presses my keys as I pleases, and lets my minds take flight.

I bathe in the Glory, like a written word might
show function and form struggling in this way,
'cause a villanelle ain't easy to write.

I challenge your Strength; your Engagement, your Fight.
So here's your invitation to join the fray.
Press y'alls keys if you please. Let y'alls minds takes flight!

Sometimes, mostly always, the words don't fit quite Right,
so don't listen to what I have Left to say,
'cause this villanelle weren't easy to write.
Press your keys as you please. Let y'alls own minds take flight

for all I care.
Will Dockery
2011-01-05 23:58:31 UTC
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Which of Corey's poems are you using for your April Blog?
This one.  It's an updated, updated, updated version of an old
standard.
A Villanelle Ain't Easy To Write (in my opinion, of course).
A villanelle ain't easy to write
unless y'all chooses to do it my way.
Press them keys, if you please. Let y'alls minds take flight!
I know some have struggled through exactly that plight,
and gone off in a state of utter dismay,
'cause a villanelle ain't easy to write.
Some folks have said my poems is a blight
on Usenet, and paper.  Still, every day
I presses my keys as I pleases, and lets my minds take flight.
I bathe in the Glory, like a written word might
show function and form struggling in this way,
'cause a villanelle ain't easy to write.
I challenge your Strength; your Engagement, your Fight.
So here's your invitation to join the fray.
Press y'alls keys if you please.  Let y'alls minds takes flight!
Sometimes, mostly always, the words don't fit quite Right,
so don't listen to what I have Left to say,
'cause this villanelle weren't easy to write.
Press your keys as you please. Let y'alls own minds take flight
for all I care.
I still think the best way to get your material across is for you to
perform it, I'm only making a tentative agreement to attempt to
interpret it in a way that works for you, and me, which is also
important.

There's yet another way that you could be at Doo-Nanny, perform your
poem yourself, and definitely get known as an independant entity
rather than another member of the "Dockery entourage", which I'm sure
you'd be unsatisfied with eventually, or even before the event.

The Woods of Wonder Film Festival, which happens at the little theatre
in the Doo-Nanny village:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=160682217309801

lets make movies, doo nanny style, please send me your DVD formated
movies , CALL FOR ENTRIES....please
send to
Lasters
pob 424
crofton ky 42217
PLEASE send before the actual date of the show

I know you performed some of your poetry recently to great success,
and I've seen some video you've made. Why not combine the two, make a
DVD film, and I'll get with Laster for times during the weekend where
we can have scheduled showings.

If you make it in person, you can set up camp near the theatre, offer
copies of your DVD (for sale or barter, or freebie if you choose),
meet & converse. I can also make sure that announcements of coming
showtimes for your poetry movie are made from the stage and there's
still the possibility that I (or you if you get comfortable enough)
can read some of the poetry live, if I feel I can carry it off.

Run this by Angel & see if she approves. Also, of course, you could
video parts of the Doo-Nanny that interests you or that you want Angel
& other friends & family to see or know about the Doo-Nanny, which
could be a film entry in *next year's* event...

...I'm liking this idea more and more.

--
"Shadowville Speedway" CD on Artemis Records:
http://www.artemisrecords.net/dockeryconley.html
70*7
2011-01-06 00:15:45 UTC
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I still think the best way to get your material across is for you to
perform it, I'm only making a tentative agreement to attempt to
interpret it in a way that works for you, and me, which is also
important.
Like I said, no pressure whatsoever. You do it, or you don't. I can
make it there, or I can't. It's just an idea. Nothing's written in
stone. I appreciate your input, but the best way for you is not the
best way for me. My performing days are over, done, gone,
arrivederci, baby. Been there, done that; got the t-shirt, pictures,
and the wristband. I've got a few great memories, and no incurable
diseases. Who could ask for anything more?

I am not now, never was, and never will be part of your entourage.
I'm not interested in making, or selling CDs or DVDs, an if I wanted
to access a vanity press service, I certainly have the capacity and
wherewithall to do so. I am interested in you doing my material to
the best of your ability, that's all. No strings.
Will Dockery
2011-01-06 01:09:14 UTC
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I still think the best way to get your material across is for you to
perform it, I'm only making a tentative agreement to attempt to
interpret it in a way that works for you, and me, which is also
important.
Like I said, no pressure whatsoever.  You do it, or you don't.  I can
make it there, or I can't.  It's just an idea.  Nothing's written in
stone.  I appreciate your input, but the best way for you is not the
best way for me.  My performing days are over, done, gone,
arrivederci, baby.  Been there, done that; got the t-shirt, pictures,
and the wristband.  I've  got a few great memories, and no incurable
diseases.  Who could ask for anything more?
I am not now, never was, and never will be part of your entourage.
I'm not interested in making, or selling CDs or DVDs, an if I wanted
to access a vanity press service, I certainly have the capacity and
wherewithall to do so.  I am interested in you doing my material to
the best of your ability, that's all.  No strings.
I'm going to try to get a sample/demo recording of me reading your
work, never mind visuals, just performance, before the Doo-Nanny. If I
get time for this, and you approve, then at some point I'll read it
onstage.

If it really clicks for me, the it can happen. If it doesn't, then
it'll have to wait... there will be other times and places, as I've
told latecomers who suddenly want in now that deadline has long since
passed (December 15 2010).

--
Theatre Of The Mind:
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/TOTM-Theatre-Of-The-Mind/162320477117852
70*7
2011-01-06 01:34:57 UTC
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I'm going to try to get a sample/demo recording of me reading your
work, never mind visuals, just performance, before the Doo-Nanny. If I
get time for this, and you approve, then at some point I'll read it
onstage.
Don't do me any favors. I don't care if you forget the whole thing.
Will Dockery
2011-01-06 04:36:44 UTC
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I'm going to try to get a sample/demo recording of me reading your
work, never mind visuals, just performance, before the Doo-Nanny. If I
get time for this, and you approve, then at some point I'll read it
onstage.
Don't do me any favors.  I don't care if you forget the whole thing.
Okay, then, Corey... at least we established that before I wasted much
more time and energy trying to fit you in.

Now on to the other 5 or 6 folks who do want to try to get involved,
this discussion has possibly opened a window for them.

--
Under The Radar / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:

70*7
2011-01-06 09:12:04 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
I'm going to try to get a sample/demo recording of me reading your
work, never mind visuals, just performance, before the Doo-Nanny. If I
get time for this, and you approve, then at some point I'll read it
onstage.
Don't do me any favors.  I don't care if you forget the whole thing.
Okay, then, Corey... at least we established that before I wasted much
more time and energy trying to fit you in.
Don't want to be fitted in; don't need to perform. I want to be
entertained. Coming down there would be a vacation of sorts. It
won't be the first vacation I've had to cancel. No worries.
Will Dockery
2011-01-06 09:32:57 UTC
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Don't want to be fitted in; don't need to perform.  I want to be
entertained.  Coming down there would be a vacation of sorts.  It
won't be the first vacation I've had to cancel.  No worries.
To be honest, Corey, I've been led to believe from almost everything
you've written about me and my poetry/art/music that you don't really
care for me or it... to put it mildly. Why would you really want to
spend a vacation with someone (me) who you've never had one good
opinion of? Doesn't sound like a very enjoyable vacation for either of
us, really, again, to be honest.

--
Under The Radar / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://youtu.be/KEQDFMNcgLA
70*7
2011-01-06 09:44:36 UTC
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Don't want to be fitted in; don't need to perform.  I want to be
entertained.  Coming down there would be a vacation of sorts.  It
won't be the first vacation I've had to cancel.  No worries.
To be honest, Corey, I've been led to believe from almost everything
you've written about me and my poetry/art/music that you don't really
care for me or it... to put it mildly. Why would you really want to
spend a vacation with someone (me) who you've never had one good
opinion of? Doesn't sound like a very enjoyable vacation for either of
us, really, again, to be honest.
If you think I don't care for or about you, then you're very wrong,
and I've been very wrong for giving you that impression. Your belief
that I don't like your work stems from my attempts to poke pin holes
in your ego, to deflate you enough so that I felt comfortable talking
to you for real. I thought we'd reached that point. I'm apparently
very wrong a lot.
Will Dockery
2011-01-06 09:55:02 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Don't want to be fitted in; don't need to perform.  I want to be
entertained.  Coming down there would be a vacation of sorts.  It
won't be the first vacation I've had to cancel.  No worries.
To be honest, Corey, I've been led to believe from almost everything
you've written about me and my poetry/art/music that you don't really
care for me or it... to put it mildly. Why would you really want to
spend a vacation with someone (me) who you've never had one good
opinion of? Doesn't sound like a very enjoyable vacation for either of
us, really, again, to be honest.
If you think I don't care for or about you, then you're very wrong,
and I've been very wrong for giving you that impression.  Your belief
that I don't like your work stems from my attempts to poke pin holes
in your ego, to deflate you enough so that I felt comfortable talking
to you for real.  I thought we'd reached that point.  I'm apparently
very wrong a lot.
I think I'll just sit and think about the paragraph above for a bit.
Either way, glad to read it.

--
Under The Radar / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://youtu.be/KEQDFMNcgLA
70*7
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Don't want to be fitted in; don't need to perform.  I want to be
entertained.  Coming down there would be a vacation of sorts.  It
won't be the first vacation I've had to cancel.  No worries.
To be honest, Corey, I've been led to believe from almost everything
you've written about me and my poetry/art/music that you don't really
care for me or it... to put it mildly. Why would you really want to
spend a vacation with someone (me) who you've never had one good
opinion of? Doesn't sound like a very enjoyable vacation for either of
us, really, again, to be honest.
If you think I don't care for or about you, then you're very wrong,
and I've been very wrong for giving you that impression.  Your belief
that I don't like your work stems from my attempts to poke pin holes
in your ego, to deflate you enough so that I felt comfortable talking
to you for real.  I thought we'd reached that point.  I'm apparently
very wrong a lot.
I think I'll just sit and think about the paragraph above for a bit.
Either way, glad to read it.
If you're glad to read that, then you might think this one sounds kind
of funny. I'm a frickin' brainiac know-it-all; you're a frickin' good-
for-nothing retard. We make an odd pair. Odd pairings tend to do
well. I think we could be a hit, if we do it right. Consider.
Will Dockery
2011-01-06 10:18:18 UTC
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If you're glad to read that, then you might think this one sounds kind
of funny.  I'm a frickin' brainiac know-it-all; you're a frickin' good-
for-nothing retard.  We make an odd pair.  Odd pairings tend to do
well.  I think we could be a hit, if we do it right.  Consider.
Like right out of The Nutty Professor or something.

--
Under The Radar / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://youtu.be/KEQDFMNcgLA
70*7
2011-01-06 10:21:16 UTC
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If you're glad to read that, then you might think this one sounds kind
of funny.  I'm a frickin' brainiac know-it-all; you're a frickin' good-
for-nothing retard.  We make an odd pair.  Odd pairings tend to do
well.  I think we could be a hit, if we do it right.  Consider.
Like right out of The Nutty Professor or something.
Like you're almost exactly right, I'm definitely a nut, and there are
a whole lot of people out there who call me "The Professor", or words
to that effect.
Will Dockery
2011-01-06 10:28:08 UTC
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If you're glad to read that, then you might think this one sounds kind
of funny.  I'm a frickin' brainiac know-it-all; you're a frickin' good-
for-nothing retard.  We make an odd pair.  Odd pairings tend to do
well.  I think we could be a hit, if we do it right.  Consider.
Like right out of The Nutty Professor or something.
Like you're almost exactly right, I'm definitely a nut, and there are
a whole lot of people out there who call me "The Professor", or words
to that effect.
I think I wrote that in my sleep... I'm drifting in and out here, but
this new keyboard is so *smooth* I just love typing on it.

--
Under The Radar / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://youtu.be/KEQDFMNcgLA
70*7
2011-01-06 10:45:55 UTC
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If you're glad to read that, then you might think this one sounds kind
of funny.  I'm a frickin' brainiac know-it-all; you're a frickin' good-
for-nothing retard.  We make an odd pair.  Odd pairings tend to do
well.  I think we could be a hit, if we do it right.  Consider.
Like right out of The Nutty Professor or something.
Like you're almost exactly right, I'm definitely a nut, and there are
a whole lot of people out there who call me "The Professor", or words
to that effect.
I think I wrote that in my sleep... I'm drifting in and out here, but
this new keyboard is so *smooth* I just love typing on it.
Glad you finally got a new one. I've got extras by the way, if you
ever have any trouble in the future. I should've said something
before. I've got all sorts of extra cables, switches, bells, and
whistles that just sit around doing nothing for me. If you ever need
anything, let me know and it's yours.

If you've written a Shadow Villanelle, I think that's great. The
title of the poem I'd like you to read is The Villanelle, like in THE
Villanelle, all presumptuous and definitive like. Not an alternative,
shadowlike, villanelle.

I'm picturing the reader, you, focusing on being the VILLAIN in the
villanelle, like everybody has made you out to be such a vanity
villain here for so long, and this poem is like your saying, "Fine,
you want me to be your villain; well here's THE definitive
Villanelle!!" ... maybe even like you're thinking "Villain
L(ucifer)", like you're a sneeky devil or something like that.
Anyway, just author's notes. Take 'em or leave 'em. If you read my
thing, read it how you want to.
Will Dockery
2011-01-06 20:06:48 UTC
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this new keyboard is so *smooth* I just love typing on it.
Glad you finally got a new one.  I've got extras by the way, if you
ever have any trouble in the future.  I should've said something
before.  I've got all sorts of extra cables, switches, bells, and
whistles that just sit around doing nothing for me.  If you ever need
anything, let me know and it's yours.
If you've written a Shadow Villanelle, I think that's great.  The
title of the poem I'd like you to read is The Villanelle, like in THE
Villanelle, all presumptuous and definitive like.  Not an alternative,
shadowlike, villanelle.
I'm picturing the reader, you, focusing on being the VILLAIN in the
villanelle, like everybody has made you out to be such a vanity
villain here for so long, and this poem is like your saying, "Fine,
you want me to be your villain; well here's THE definitive
Villanelle!!" ...  maybe even like you're thinking "Villain
L(ucifer)", like you're a sneeky devil or something like that.
Anyway, just author's notes.  Take 'em or leave 'em.  If you read my
thing, read it how you want to.
"...the ugly dark abusive Will Dockery."

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/f94cea2cbb7075fd

The concept is really coming together for me here, quickly, good thing
because I have to leave soon... but it is boiling down to a concept,
and I do think I want to get it filmed (& I think I know just the
person to do it) & on YouTube, and if you and Angel approve, on the
George Dance blog for April.

And then, send a copy for the Doo-Nanny film festival, and probably to
the new local cable channel video show hosted by Brian Mallard, which
can only be seen in Phenix City, Alabama:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video.php?v=1504724860945&comments

"Brian Mallard hosts Block Party on CTVEA Channel 7..."

More, later.

--
Poetry, music & video by Will Dockery:
http://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery
70*7
2011-01-06 20:30:17 UTC
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if you and Angel approve
You'll have to discuss George's blog with him. As far as Angel & I
are concerned, you both have Carte blanche to do whatever you want
with it, a la Carte, or ... Cartesianally.
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More, later.
Enough for now & later.
Will Dockery
2011-01-07 15:26:48 UTC
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if you and Angel approve
You'll have to discuss George's blog with him.  As far as Angel & I
are concerned, you both have Carte blanche to do whatever you want
with it, a la Carte, or ... Cartesianally.
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More, later.
Enough for now & later.
Enough, but a note to myself maybe, I need to get a print-out of the
"final" version, or at least up to now, and for that, my performance
of the poem, as I had many chances to get versions on video last night
as Brian Mallard was taping almost everything of original material he
could for his new cable television show on local performers, at two
different venues:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video.php?v=1504724860945&comments

"For those of us who don't have East Alabama Cable Ch. 7, Del Ranch
has it, with plenty of booth seating facing the set! Brian, let Kay
Kay & Karen know!"

And, image-wise, I seem to have the "Villanesque look" going that you
seem to be looking for, possibly, these days:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=483293063291&set=at.483286903291.273765.587063291.620409362

So, long story a bit longer, the most recently dated posting of "THE
Villanelle" is the one I should use for now, then, right? Well, I know
that answer already, but it doesn't hurt to sort of set it in stone...

--
Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery
70*7
2011-01-07 16:04:36 UTC
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Enough, but a note to myself maybe, I need to get a print-out of the
"final" version, or at least up to now, and for that, my performance
of the poem, as I had many chances to get versions on video last night
as Brian Mallard was taping almost everything of original material he
could for his new cable television show on local performers, at two
!@#$%^&!!!

You mean I missed that!?!

DAMN!! Damn, damn, damn, damn, Damn!!!!!!!!!

That really would have been great, Will.

Okay, so take this. Use it; it's yours now. Read it, memorize it,
own it. I know you'll do better than fine with it, better than me of
course, because you've already impressed the heck out of me already,
and I can't do what you do. So, here:

The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write!


The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write,
and y'alls cain't! Lest y'alls do it MY my way!
Press them keys, if you please!
Let y'alls minds take flight!


I Know, somes have struggled through 'xactly that plight,
and gone off in the States of utter dismay,
'cause The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write!

Some folks have said MY poems is a Blight
on Usenet, and paper! Still, every day
I presses my keys as AH pleases, and lets MY minds take flight!


I Bathe in the Glory, like a written word might
show function and form struggling in this way,
'cause The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write.

I challenge you!! Strength! Engagement! Show Fight!!
Here's your invite, Nations, to join the phrase!!
Press Y'alls keys, if Y'alls pleases. Let Y'alls minds takes
flights!

Sometimes, mostly always, words don't fits Quiet Riot!!
So's, don't listens to whats AH haves Lefts to say,
'cause The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write!!
Press Y'alls keys as Y'alls pleases!! Let Y'alls MINES takes flights!
Will Dockery
2011-01-07 16:28:21 UTC
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Okay, so take this.  Use it; it's yours now.  Read it, memorize it,
own it.  I know you'll do better than fine with it, better than me of
course, because you've already impressed the heck out of me already,
The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write!
The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write,
and y'alls cain't! Lest y'alls do it MY my way!
Press them keys, if you please!
Let y'alls minds take flight!
I Know, somes have struggled through 'xactly that plight,
and gone off in the States of utter dismay,
'cause The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write!
Some folks have said MY poems is a Blight
on Usenet, and paper!  Still, every day
I presses my keys as AH pleases, and lets MY minds take flight!
I Bathe in the Glory, like a written word might
show function and form struggling in this way,
'cause The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write.
I challenge you!! Strength!  Engagement!  Show Fight!!
Here's your invite, Nations, to join the phrase!!
Press Y'alls keys, if Y'alls pleases.  Let Y'alls minds takes
flights!
Sometimes, mostly always, words don't fits Quiet Riot!!
So's, don't listens to whats AH haves Lefts to say,
'cause The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write!!
Press Y'alls keys as Y'alls pleases!! Let Y'alls MINES takes flights!
That looks difficult..!

Almost feel like doing it as an homage to Andy Griffith:



In fact, I'm liking the audio-with-art style on that video, something
to consider.

--
Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery
70*7
2011-01-07 16:30:59 UTC
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Okay, so take this.  Use it; it's yours now.  Read it, memorize it,
own it.  I know you'll do better than fine with it, better than me of
course, because you've already impressed the heck out of me already,
The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write!
The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write,
and y'alls cain't! Lest y'alls do it MY my way!
Press them keys, if you please!
Let y'alls minds take flight!
I Know, somes have struggled through 'xactly that plight,
and gone off in the States of utter dismay,
'cause The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write!
Some folks have said MY poems is a Blight
on Usenet, and paper!  Still, every day
I presses my keys as AH pleases, and lets MY minds take flight!
I Bathe in the Glory, like a written word might
show function and form struggling in this way,
'cause The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write.
I challenge you!! Strength!  Engagement!  Show Fight!!
Here's your invite, Nations, to join the phrase!!
Press Y'alls keys, if Y'alls pleases.  Let Y'alls minds takes
flights!
Sometimes, mostly always, words don't fits Quiet Riot!!
So's, don't listens to whats AH haves Lefts to say,
'cause The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write!!
Press Y'alls keys as Y'alls pleases!! Let Y'alls MINES takes flights!
That looks difficult..!
http://youtu.be/oNxLxTZHKM8
In fact, I'm liking the audio-with-art style on that video, something
to consider.
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I'm Loving it!! Whatever, however!! It's all up to you, Will!!
Will Dockery
2011-01-08 08:44:26 UTC
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The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write!
The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write,
and y'alls cain't! Lest y'alls do it MY my way!
Press them keys, if you please!
Let y'alls minds take flight!
I Know, somes have struggled through 'xactly that plight,
and gone off in the States of utter dismay,
'cause The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write!
Some folks have said MY poems is a Blight
on Usenet, and paper!  Still, every day
I presses my keys as AH pleases, and lets MY minds take flight!
I Bathe in the Glory, like a written word might
show function and form struggling in this way,
'cause The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write.
I challenge you!! Strength!  Engagement!  Show Fight!!
Here's your invite, Nations, to join the phrase!!
Press Y'alls keys, if Y'alls pleases.  Let Y'alls minds takes
flights!
Sometimes, mostly always, words don't fits Quiet Riot!!
So's, don't listens to whats AH haves Lefts to say,
'cause The Villanelle 'Tweren't Easy To Write!!
Press Y'alls keys as Y'alls pleases!! Let Y'alls MINES takes flights!
<snip for focus>

Again, this one looks like it will be difficult, probably impossible,
really, to do.

I'm just not "feeling" it, to be honest.

The deal was for me to pick from your works, and it looks like if this
project is going to be possible, that's what I'll have to do. I just
can't see this one, as written above, being right for me, and as was
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Post by George Dance
No. Come on, Will: he's asking you to go through his work and pick a
piece; assuming that you're familiar with some of his work, or that
you will become so in the course of picking. That's what every writer
wants, readers who know (some of) their writing; I think you know that.
Yes, and I'm reminded that yet another year has gone by without my
completing the long-promised "Country Woman" song... jeeze, the years
clip by so fast & there's always some new thing I'm working on. I
thought of that when reading this, as a matter of fact, and the one I
wanted to do with Blackpool Jimmy that I never got to. In fact, the
only project of this sort that actually materialized was the Zorro
piece with Benders, and that just happened to fall into place almost
http://youtu.be/G64jUD1tRRA
So, while these side-project collaborations look easy and interesting,
fitting them in with everything else going on can be difficult,
possibly impossible in the end, and I guess I should state that from
the get-go.
It's reasonable to think that a project based on an idea of your own,
or of someone you're in contact with, would get priority. It's
possible that the Zorro proect just came along at the right place and
time, when there wasn't anything competing; that would explain why it
happened "almost immediately."

I guess the thing to do is not consider such projects as binding, as
intentions rather than commitments.
----

On that note, I'll be looking and will try, but I can't promise it
immediately... or at all, until I find the piece I'm comfortable
working with.

--
Little Homeless Clown by Will Dockery & Henry Conley recorded live at
Del Ranch, December 2010:
http://www.archive.org/details/LittleHomelessClownWillDockeryHenryConley
70*7
2011-01-08 09:08:02 UTC
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Again, this one looks like it will be difficult, probably impossible,
really, to do.
I call Bullshit. Apparently I have more confidence in you than you
do.
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I'm just not "feeling" it, to be honest.
Whatever. All I can give you is a script, and some author's notes.
If you want it to work for you, make it yours. I'm flattered by the
Andy Griffith comparison, of course, which is probably why I didn't
say anything before, but I don't want an homage to AG. I want the
real WD doing my poem however he thinks best. I can't write your
accent, Will. I'm a damned Yankee as far as you're concerned. Don't
do me, and don't do me trying to sound like you. You do you because
only you can.
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The deal was for me to pick from your works, and it looks like if this
project is going to be possible, that's what I'll have to do. I just
can't see this one, as written above, being right for me, and as was
I'm flattered that you would even consider recording my poem, and I
don't care which one you do. Pick anything you feel comfortable with,
our just tell me to write you something new, and I will.
Will Dockery
2011-01-10 06:21:35 UTC
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Again, this one looks like it will be difficult, probably impossible,
really, to do.
I call Bullshit.  Apparently I have more confidence in you than you do.
Not at all a lack of "confidence", but more a lack of feeling this
piece is the best one for my style... still looking...
Post by Will Dockery
I'm just not "feeling" it, to be honest.
Whatever.  All I can give you is a script, and some author's notes.
If you want it to work for you, make it yours.  I'm flattered by the
Andy Griffith comparison, of course, which is probably why I didn't
say anything before, but I don't want an homage to AG.  I want the
real WD doing my poem however he thinks best.  I can't write your
accent, Will.  I'm a damned Yankee as far as you're concerned.  Don't
do me, and don't do me trying to sound like you.  You do you because
only you can.
Post by Will Dockery
The deal was for me to pick from your works, and it looks like if this
project is going to be possible, that's what I'll have to do. I just
can't see this one, as written above, being right for me, and as was
I'm flattered that you would even consider recording my poem, and I
don't care which one you do.  Pick anything you feel comfortable with,
our just tell me to write you something new, and I will.
I am still fishing about, and hope to come across just the right gem
that feels "Will Dockery" to me... it might even be something that you
write upon meeting me and wandering the Doo-Nanny grounds with me,
camera at ready?

A trip into the Woods Of Wonder has been known to be a mind expanding
visit.

--
Little HomeLess Clown / Will Dockery & Friends:

70*7
2011-01-10 09:29:46 UTC
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Again, this one looks like it will be difficult, probably impossible,
really, to do.
I call Bullshit.  Apparently I have more confidence in you than you do.
Not at all a lack of "confidence", but more a lack of feeling this
piece is the best one for my style... still looking...
Post by Will Dockery
I'm just not "feeling" it, to be honest.
Whatever.  All I can give you is a script, and some author's notes.
If you want it to work for you, make it yours.  I'm flattered by the
Andy Griffith comparison, of course, which is probably why I didn't
say anything before, but I don't want an homage to AG.  I want the
real WD doing my poem however he thinks best.  I can't write your
accent, Will.  I'm a damned Yankee as far as you're concerned.  Don't
do me, and don't do me trying to sound like you.  You do you because
only you can.
Post by Will Dockery
The deal was for me to pick from your works, and it looks like if this
project is going to be possible, that's what I'll have to do. I just
can't see this one, as written above, being right for me, and as was
I'm flattered that you would even consider recording my poem, and I
don't care which one you do.  Pick anything you feel comfortable with,
our just tell me to write you something new, and I will.
I am still fishing about, and hope to come across just the right gem
that feels "Will Dockery" to me... it might even be something that you
write upon meeting me and wandering the Doo-Nanny grounds with me,
camera at ready?
A trip into the Woods Of Wonder has been known to be a mind expanding
visit.
I have to be careful of weeds in the woods, because wild wood flowers
grew wild on the farm, and I'm apparently more allergic to poison ivy
than I thought.
Will Dockery
2011-01-11 08:39:42 UTC
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I have to be careful of weeds in the woods, because wild wood flowers
grew wild on the farm, and I'm apparently more allergic to poison ivy
than I thought.
Yes, this far down south there's all sorts of weeds that can cause
some brutal allergies.


--
"Shadowville Speedway" CD on Artemis Records:
http://www.artemisrecords.net/dockeryconley.html
Corey Connor
2011-01-11 23:59:57 UTC
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I have to be careful of weeds in the woods, because wild wood flowers
grew wild on the farm, and I'm apparently more allergic to poison ivy
than I thought.
Yes, this far down south there's all sorts of weeds that can cause
some brutal allergies.
I hope I'm not reading you right, because I'd sure hate to get stuck
down there with any bad weed, you know. I only like they really most
potentest wicked good stuff, Will.
Will Dockery
2011-01-12 12:11:47 UTC
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I have to be careful of weeds in the woods, because wild wood flowers
grew wild on the farm, and I'm apparently more allergic to poison ivy
than I thought.
Yes, this far down south there's all sorts of weeds that can cause
some brutal allergies.
I hope I'm not reading you right, because I'd sure hate to get stuck
down there with any bad weed, you know.  I only like they really most
potentest wicked good stuff, Will.
No, I was referring to poison ivy, oak, sumac and those other rash &
itch inducing weeds... as far as what you speak of, if I understand it
correctly, I don't partake of that sort of thing these days. So I
can't really vouch for what might be available down this way.

--
Red Lipped Stranger / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars

Corey Connor
2011-01-12 22:02:03 UTC
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So, long story a bit longer, the most recently dated posting of "THE
Villanelle" is the one I should use for now, then, right? Well, I know
that answer already, but it doesn't hurt to sort of set it in stone...
--
Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:http://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery
Will Dockery
2011-01-12 22:11:29 UTC
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So, long story a bit longer, the most recently dated posting of "THE
Post by Will Dockery
Villanelle" is the one I should use for now, then, right? Well, I know
that answer already, but it doesn't hurt to sort of set it in stone...
Really, to tie all this in with what George has planned for April, it
would be good if I could do a version like the one he'll be posting on
his blog, then links from there to the video of my reading could be
placed, so I'll get back to that shortly.

--
"Shadowville Speedway" CD on Artemis Records:
http://www.artemisrecords.net/dockeryconley.html
George Dance
2011-01-06 19:52:16 UTC
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Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
<snip for brevity>
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Post by Will Dockery
No. Come on, Will: he's asking you to go through his work and pick a
piece; assuming that you're familiar with some of his work, or that
you will become so in the course of picking. That's what every writer
wants, readers who know (some of) their writing; I think you know that.
Which of Corey's poems are you using for your April Blog?
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Yes, and I'm reminded that yet another year has gone by without my
completing the long-promised "Country Woman" song... jeeze, the years
clip by so fast & there's always some new thing I'm working on. I
thought of that when reading this, as a matter of fact, and the one I
wanted to do with Blackpool Jimmy that I never got to. In fact, the
only project of this sort that actually materialized was the Zorro
piece with Benders, and that just happened to fall into place almost
http://youtu.be/G64jUD1tRRA
So, while these side-project collaborations look easy and interesting,
fitting them in with everything else going on can be difficult,
possibly impossible in the end, and I guess I should state that from
the get-go.
It's reasonable to think that a project based on an idea of your own,
or of someone you're in contact with, would get priority. It's
possible that the Zorro project just came along at the right place and
time, when there wasn't anything competing; that would explain why it
happened "almost immediately."
You nailed it, there, I think, George, things tend to come together
fast on a song we're feeling, and it really is easier to just write
our own than trying to copy someone else.
Which is why I'm confounded at these folks here who seem to think
having an original thought is such a chore.
Post by George Dance
I guess the thing to do is not consider such projects as binding, as
intentions rather than commitments. You put it aside till you're ready
to work on it; by the same token, if someone else comes along who
wants to work on it now, I'll give it to him.
"Always There." Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.
Sort of the way we handle things best vis-a-vis humor, et cetera...
the deadpan C&W tragedy that Corey may have nailed in my style.
Post by George Dance
For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
I'd like very much to have the opportunity to have a shot at that
one... is "Always There" already in the archives, here?
--
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/f9f031de...
but I see that at least one line is different (and I can't see a later
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/always-there-george-dance.html
I'll have a look... do I have some leeway on the melody or are you
dead set on a melody for it already?
You have leeway. Same with CW, FTM. My tunes (calling them 'melodies'
is far too pretentious) are just suggestions; an attempt to describe
the music I was hearing when I wrote the poems. I expect you and your
group to improve them, in the process of turning them into real
melodies.
Post by Will Dockery
--
Will Dockery & Friends live http://youtu.be/EBpnUOepRZg
Will Dockery
2011-01-06 20:24:14 UTC
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Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
<snip for brevity>
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Post by George Dance
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"Always There." Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.
Sort of the way we handle things best vis-a-vis humor, et cetera...
the deadpan C&W tragedy that Corey may have nailed in my style.
Post by George Dance
For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/always-there-george-dance.html
I'll have a look... do I have some leeway on the melody or are you
dead set on a melody for it already?
You have leeway. Same with CW, FTM. My tunes (calling them 'melodies'
is far too pretentious) are just suggestions; an attempt to describe
the music I was hearing when I wrote the poems. I expect you and your
group to improve them, in the process of turning them into real
melodies.
I think we can put an "authentic" Country-Western stamp on it, which
is why I think I might prefer "Always There", as we do tend to take
our country music pretty seriously down here...

If your sound works, have a listen to "Little Homeless Clown", for
example... I think it retains C&W humor yet is pretty deadpan serious:

Little Homeless Clown by Will Dockery & Henry Conley recorded live at
Del Ranch, December 2010:
http://www.archive.org/details/LittleHomelessClownWillDockeryHenryConley
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Will Dockery & Friends live http://youtu.be/EBpnUOepRZg
Will Dockery
2011-01-26 15:54:26 UTC
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Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
<snip for brevity>
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
No. Come on, Will: he's asking you to go through his work and pick a
piece; assuming that you're familiar with some of his work, or that
you will become so in the course of picking. That's what every writer
wants, readers who know (some of) their writing; I think you know that.
Which of Corey's poems are you using for your April Blog?
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Yes, and I'm reminded that yet another year has gone by without my
completing the long-promised "Country Woman" song... jeeze, the years
clip by so fast & there's always some new thing I'm working on. I
thought of that when reading this, as a matter of fact, and the one I
wanted to do with Blackpool Jimmy that I never got to. In fact, the
only project of this sort that actually materialized was the Zorro
piece with Benders, and that just happened to fall into place almost
http://youtu.be/G64jUD1tRRA
So, while these side-project collaborations look easy and interesting,
fitting them in with everything else going on can be difficult,
possibly impossible in the end, and I guess I should state that from
the get-go.
It's reasonable to think that a project based on an idea of your own,
or of someone you're in contact with, would get priority. It's
possible that the Zorro project just came along at the right place and
time, when there wasn't anything competing; that would explain why it
happened "almost immediately."
You nailed it, there, I think, George, things tend to come together
fast on a song we're feeling, and it really is easier to just write
our own than trying to copy someone else.
Which is why I'm confounded at these folks here who seem to think
having an original thought is such a chore.
Post by George Dance
I guess the thing to do is not consider such projects as binding, as
intentions rather than commitments. You put it aside till you're ready
to work on it; by the same token, if someone else comes along who
wants to work on it now, I'll give it to him.
"Always There." Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.
Sort of the way we handle things best vis-a-vis humor, et cetera...
the deadpan C&W tragedy that Corey may have nailed in my style.
Post by George Dance
For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
I'd like very much to have the opportunity to have a shot at that
one... is "Always There" already in the archives, here?
--
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/f9f031de...
but I see that at least one line is different (and I can't see a later
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/always-there-george-dance.html
I'll have a look... do I have some leeway on the melody or are you
dead set on a melody for it already?
You have leeway. Same with CW, FTM. My tunes (calling them 'melodies'
is far too pretentious) are just suggestions; an attempt to describe
the music I was hearing when I wrote the poems. I expect you and your
group to improve them, in the process of turning them into real
melodies.
I have a meeting/rehersal/songwriting session with two of my main
collaborators tonight, Henry & Geno, & intend to finally push forward
on "Always There" tonight, a possibly good time, as we're talking of
developing a strictly "Country & Western" Will Dockery & Friends set
for possible bookings in traditional C&W venues where rock, jazz et
cetera just doesn't fit so well.

I think it will go well with the mix... at least I'm ready to push
forward as much as the others respond favorably.

--
She Sleeps Tight by Will Dockery & Brian Mallard:

Post by George Dance
--
http://youtu.be/EBpnUOepRZg
George Dance
2011-01-26 16:56:39 UTC
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Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
<snip for brevity>
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
No. Come on, Will: he's asking you to go through his work and pick a
piece; assuming that you're familiar with some of his work, or that
you will become so in the course of picking. That's what every writer
wants, readers who know (some of) their writing; I think you know that.
Which of Corey's poems are you using for your April Blog?
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Yes, and I'm reminded that yet another year has gone by without my
completing the long-promised "Country Woman" song... jeeze, the years
clip by so fast & there's always some new thing I'm working on. I
thought of that when reading this, as a matter of fact, and the one I
wanted to do with Blackpool Jimmy that I never got to. In fact, the
only project of this sort that actually materialized was the Zorro
piece with Benders, and that just happened to fall into place almost
http://youtu.be/G64jUD1tRRA
So, while these side-project collaborations look easy and interesting,
fitting them in with everything else going on can be difficult,
possibly impossible in the end, and I guess I should state that from
the get-go.
It's reasonable to think that a project based on an idea of your own,
or of someone you're in contact with, would get priority. It's
possible that the Zorro project just came along at the right place and
time, when there wasn't anything competing; that would explain why it
happened "almost immediately."
You nailed it, there, I think, George, things tend to come together
fast on a song we're feeling, and it really is easier to just write
our own than trying to copy someone else.
Which is why I'm confounded at these folks here who seem to think
having an original thought is such a chore.
Post by George Dance
I guess the thing to do is not consider such projects as binding, as
intentions rather than commitments. You put it aside till you're ready
to work on it; by the same token, if someone else comes along who
wants to work on it now, I'll give it to him.
"Always There." Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.
Sort of the way we handle things best vis-a-vis humor, et cetera...
the deadpan C&W tragedy that Corey may have nailed in my style.
Post by George Dance
For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
I'd like very much to have the opportunity to have a shot at that
one... is "Always There" already in the archives, here?
--
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/f9f031de...
but I see that at least one line is different (and I can't see a later
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/always-there-george-dance.html
I'll have a look... do I have some leeway on the melody or are you
dead set on a melody for it already?
You have leeway. Same with CW, FTM. My tunes (calling them 'melodies'
is far too pretentious) are just suggestions; an attempt to describe
the music I was hearing when I wrote the poems. I expect you and your
group to improve them, in the process of turning them into real
melodies.
I have a meeting/rehersal/songwriting session with two of my main
collaborators tonight, Henry & Geno, & intend to finally push forward
on "Always There" tonight, a possibly good time, as we're talking of
developing a strictly "Country & Western" Will Dockery & Friends set
for possible bookings in traditional C&W venues where rock, jazz et
cetera just doesn't fit so well.
I think it will go well with the mix... at least I'm ready to push
forward as much as the others respond favorably.
--
She Sleeps Tight by Will Dockery & Brian http://youtu.be/9uGY157cpiU
Post by George Dance
--
http://youtu.be/EBpnUOepRZg
I hope they like it. I haven't given you the tune I heard when I wrote
it, but if one of these guys hears his own tune in it, that'll be even
better: because then the song will be a project he'll have ownership
in. (For the same reason, I'd urge you again to look at writing an
additional 4 or whatever lines of lyrics.)
Will Dockery
2011-01-26 17:05:25 UTC
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Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
<snip for brevity>
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
No. Come on, Will: he's asking you to go through his work and pick a
piece; assuming that you're familiar with some of his work, or that
you will become so in the course of picking. That's what every writer
wants, readers who know (some of) their writing; I think you know that.
Which of Corey's poems are you using for your April Blog?
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Yes, and I'm reminded that yet another year has gone by without my
completing the long-promised "Country Woman" song... jeeze, the years
clip by so fast & there's always some new thing I'm working on. I
thought of that when reading this, as a matter of fact, and the one I
wanted to do with Blackpool Jimmy that I never got to. In fact, the
only project of this sort that actually materialized was the Zorro
piece with Benders, and that just happened to fall into place almost
http://youtu.be/G64jUD1tRRA
So, while these side-project collaborations look easy and interesting,
fitting them in with everything else going on can be difficult,
possibly impossible in the end, and I guess I should state that from
the get-go.
It's reasonable to think that a project based on an idea of your own,
or of someone you're in contact with, would get priority. It's
possible that the Zorro project just came along at the right place and
time, when there wasn't anything competing; that would explain why it
happened "almost immediately."
You nailed it, there, I think, George, things tend to come together
fast on a song we're feeling, and it really is easier to just write
our own than trying to copy someone else.
Which is why I'm confounded at these folks here who seem to think
having an original thought is such a chore.
Post by George Dance
I guess the thing to do is not consider such projects as binding, as
intentions rather than commitments. You put it aside till you're ready
to work on it; by the same token, if someone else comes along who
wants to work on it now, I'll give it to him.
"Always There." Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.
Sort of the way we handle things best vis-a-vis humor, et cetera...
the deadpan C&W tragedy that Corey may have nailed in my style.
Post by George Dance
For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
I'd like very much to have the opportunity to have a shot at that
one... is "Always There" already in the archives, here?
--
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/f9f031de...
but I see that at least one line is different (and I can't see a later
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/always-there-george-dance.html
I'll have a look... do I have some leeway on the melody or are you
dead set on a melody for it already?
You have leeway. Same with CW, FTM. My tunes (calling them 'melodies'
is far too pretentious) are just suggestions; an attempt to describe
the music I was hearing when I wrote the poems. I expect you and your
group to improve them, in the process of turning them into real
melodies.
I have a meeting/rehersal/songwriting session with two of my main
collaborators tonight, Henry & Geno, & intend to finally push forward
on "Always There" tonight, a possibly good time, as we're talking of
developing a strictly "Country & Western" Will Dockery & Friends set
for possible bookings in traditional C&W venues where rock, jazz et
cetera just doesn't fit so well.
I think it will go well with the mix... at least I'm ready to push
forward as much as the others respond favorably.
--
http://youtu.be/9uGY157cpiU
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
--
http://youtu.be/EBpnUOepRZg
it, but if one of these guys hears his own tune in it, that'll be even
better: because then the song will be a project he'll have ownership
in. (For the same reason, I'd urge you again to look at writing an
additional 4 or whatever lines of lyrics.)
That's right, thanks for the leeway on that, it'll make it much easier
to proceed (one thing that made "Autograph of Zorro" such a quick
project, was my freedom to compose the melody as I felt worked best.),
if we can get to it tonight.

Usually, or most often, the way it works is that I come in with words
and a melody for the vocals, and Henry (in the case I envision for
tonight) will snap out a guitar part matching my vocal, so I'll
concentrate from this point on getting a version that has some melodic
snap and contry music authenticity.

--
She Sleeps Tight by Will Dockery & Brian Mallard:
http://youtu.be/9uGY157cpiU
Will Dockery
2011-01-27 14:10:34 UTC
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Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
<snip for brevity>
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
No. Come on, Will: he's asking you to go through his work and pick a
piece; assuming that you're familiar with some of his work, or that
you will become so in the course of picking. That's what every writer
wants, readers who know (some of) their writing; I think you know that.
Which of Corey's poems are you using for your April Blog?
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Yes, and I'm reminded that yet another year has gone by without my
completing the long-promised "Country Woman" song... jeeze, the years
clip by so fast & there's always some new thing I'm working on. I
thought of that when reading this, as a matter of fact, and the one I
wanted to do with Blackpool Jimmy that I never got to. In fact, the
only project of this sort that actually materialized was the Zorro
piece with Benders, and that just happened to fall into place almost
http://youtu.be/G64jUD1tRRA
So, while these side-project collaborations look easy and interesting,
fitting them in with everything else going on can be difficult,
possibly impossible in the end, and I guess I should state that from
the get-go.
It's reasonable to think that a project based on an idea of your own,
or of someone you're in contact with, would get priority. It's
possible that the Zorro project just came along at the right place and
time, when there wasn't anything competing; that would explain why it
happened "almost immediately."
You nailed it, there, I think, George, things tend to come together
fast on a song we're feeling, and it really is easier to just write
our own than trying to copy someone else.
Which is why I'm confounded at these folks here who seem to think
having an original thought is such a chore.
Post by George Dance
I guess the thing to do is not consider such projects as binding, as
intentions rather than commitments. You put it aside till you're ready
to work on it; by the same token, if someone else comes along who
wants to work on it now, I'll give it to him.
"Always There." Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.
Sort of the way we handle things best vis-a-vis humor, et cetera...
the deadpan C&W tragedy that Corey may have nailed in my style.
Post by George Dance
For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
I'd like very much to have the opportunity to have a shot at that
one... is "Always There" already in the archives, here?
--
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/f9f031de...
but I see that at least one line is different (and I can't see a later
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/always-there-george-dance.html
I'll have a look... do I have some leeway on the melody or are you
dead set on a melody for it already?
You have leeway. Same with CW, FTM. My tunes (calling them 'melodies'
is far too pretentious) are just suggestions; an attempt to describe
the music I was hearing when I wrote the poems. I expect you and your
group to improve them, in the process of turning them into real
melodies.
I have a meeting/rehersal/songwriting session with two of my main
collaborators tonight, Henry & Geno, & intend to finally push forward
on "Always There" tonight, a possibly good time, as we're talking of
developing a strictly "Country & Western" Will Dockery & Friends set
for possible bookings in traditional C&W venues where rock, jazz et
cetera just doesn't fit so well.
I think it will go well with the mix... at least I'm ready to push
forward as much as the others respond favorably.
--
She Sleeps Tight by Will Dockery & Brian http://youtu.be/9uGY157cpiU
Post by George Dance
--
http://youtu.be/EBpnUOepRZg
it, but if one of these guys hears his own tune in it, that'll be even
better: because then the song will be a project he'll have ownership
in. (For the same reason, I'd urge you again to look at writing an
additional 4 or whatever lines of lyrics.)
Well, I didn't manage to get a copy of the lyrics to "Always There"
before the meeting, but H.C. did have an interest in trying it... so
maybe soon. What we wound up writing was sort of an interesting change
of pace for us, what I could consider or call a "Civil War Pastiche",

http://www.pdmusic.org/civilwar.html

it began with an old uptempo guitar from H.C., with that very old
school military flute sound (from Geno) from the early Revolutionary
War and so on, the simple "fife & drum" thing, sort of (haven't looked
any of this up so I'm freestyling on this description), which caused
me to write/sing:

Manassas Field

How far we going
all the way...
To Savanna Georgia
where the gichi breeze sways.
Ain't got no bacon
but we're full of beans.
Manassas Field
to make that scene.

Marching down
that coastal plane.
Running from the Yankees
in the warm Spring rain.
Old pal Shep
caught a bullet in the brain.
Manassas Field
I'll never be the same.

Back on the river
cooling my heels.
Met an old Rabbit
and we cut a deal.

How far we going
he said all the way.
The wheel's on fire
must be judgement day.
Can't see the sky
but plenty of clouds.
Manassas Field
angels playing so loud.

Down the river
his deal seemed fair.
One way or another
I'm getting back there.

-Will Dockery

--
"Shadowville Speedway" CD on Artemis Records:
http://www.artemisrecords.net/dockeryconley.html
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2011-01-31 14:39:02 UTC
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Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
<snip for brevity>
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
No. Come on, Will: he's asking you to go through his work and pick a
piece; assuming that you're familiar with some of his work, or that
you will become so in the course of picking. That's what every writer
wants, readers who know (some of) their writing; I think you know that.
Yes, and I'm reminded that yet another year has gone by without my
completing the long-promised "Country Woman" song... jeeze, the years
clip by so fast & there's always some new thing I'm working on. I
thought of that when reading this, as a matter of fact, and the one I
wanted to do with Blackpool Jimmy that I never got to. In fact, the
only project of this sort that actually materialized was the Zorro
piece with Benders, and that just happened to fall into place almost
http://youtu.be/G64jUD1tRRA
So, while these side-project collaborations look easy and interesting,
fitting them in with everything else going on can be difficult,
possibly impossible in the end, and I guess I should state that from
the get-go.
It's reasonable to think that a project based on an idea of your own,
or of someone you're in contact with, would get priority. It's
possible that the Zorro proect just came along at the right place and
time, when there wasn't anything competing; that would explain why it
happened "almost immediately."
You nailed it, there, I think, George, things tend to come together
fast on a song we're feeling, and it really is easier to just write
our own than trying to copy someone else.
Which is why I'm confounded at these folks here who seem to think
having an original thought is such a chore.
Post by George Dance
I guess the thing to do is not consider such projects as binding, as
intentions rather than commitments. You put it aside till you're ready
to work on it; by the same token, if someone else comes along who
wants to work on it now, I'll give it to him.
"Always There." Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.
Sort of the way we handle things best vis-a-vis humor, et cetera...
the deadpan C&W tragedy that Corey may have nailed in my style.
Post by George Dance
For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
I'd like very much to have the opportunity to have a shot at that
one... is "Always There" already in the archives, here?
--
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/f9f031de...
but I see that at least one line is different (and I can't see a later
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/always-there-george-dance.html
Okay... I thought the conversation we had over one of my poems for the
"April Blog" was also here, but it seems I may have been mistaken.

You can have your choice of poems, or i also have an interesting idea
you might want to try.

--
Music & poetry of Will Dockery:
http://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery
George Dance
2011-01-31 15:12:28 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
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Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
<snip for brevity>
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
No. Come on, Will: he's asking you to go through his work and pick a
piece; assuming that you're familiar with some of his work, or that
you will become so in the course of picking. That's what every writer
wants, readers who know (some of) their writing; I think you know that.
Yes, and I'm reminded that yet another year has gone by without my
completing the long-promised "Country Woman" song... jeeze, the years
clip by so fast & there's always some new thing I'm working on. I
thought of that when reading this, as a matter of fact, and the one I
wanted to do with Blackpool Jimmy that I never got to. In fact, the
only project of this sort that actually materialized was the Zorro
piece with Benders, and that just happened to fall into place almost
http://youtu.be/G64jUD1tRRA
So, while these side-project collaborations look easy and interesting,
fitting them in with everything else going on can be difficult,
possibly impossible in the end, and I guess I should state that from
the get-go.
It's reasonable to think that a project based on an idea of your own,
or of someone you're in contact with, would get priority. It's
possible that the Zorro proect just came along at the right place and
time, when there wasn't anything competing; that would explain why it
happened "almost immediately."
You nailed it, there, I think, George, things tend to come together
fast on a song we're feeling, and it really is easier to just write
our own than trying to copy someone else.
Which is why I'm confounded at these folks here who seem to think
having an original thought is such a chore.
Post by George Dance
I guess the thing to do is not consider such projects as binding, as
intentions rather than commitments. You put it aside till you're ready
to work on it; by the same token, if someone else comes along who
wants to work on it now, I'll give it to him.
"Always There." Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.
Sort of the way we handle things best vis-a-vis humor, et cetera...
the deadpan C&W tragedy that Corey may have nailed in my style.
Post by George Dance
For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
I'd like very much to have the opportunity to have a shot at that
one... is "Always There" already in the archives, here?
--
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/f9f031de...
but I see that at least one line is different (and I can't see a later
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/always-there-george-dance.html
Okay...
Did Henry ever get to see AT? You mentioned you wanted to come up with
a basic melody as well.
I don't want this to fall in a crack, and I realize it's my
responsibility; hence I'll have to keep on at you about it.
Post by Will Dockery
I thought the conversation we had over one of my poems for the
"April Blog" was also here, but it seems I may have been mistaken.
You can have your choice of poems, or i also have an interesting idea
you might want to try.
You've got me intrigued. I'd like to hear your idea.
Post by Will Dockery
--
Music & poetry of Will Dockery:http://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery
Will Dockery
2011-01-31 15:46:44 UTC
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Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
-Will Dockery
<snip for focus>
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
"Always There."
Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.
Sort of the way we handle things best vis-a-vis humor, et cetera...
the deadpan C&W tragedy that Corey may have nailed in my style.
Post by George Dance
For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
I'd like very much to have the opportunity to have a shot at that
one... is "Always There" already in the archives, here?
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/always-there-george-dance.html
Okay...
Did Henry ever get to see AT? You mentioned you wanted to come up with
a basic melody as well.
I don't want this to fall in a crack, and I realize it's my
responsibility; hence I'll have to keep on at you about it.
Please do, because I really think this one can be good. In a recent
post, I mentioned that I brought it up, and began the task of trying
to explain you, how I know you, and so on... imagine H.C. someone who
knows almost nothing about Usenet, except that he "don't like it".

Then we got sidetracked on this old sounding melody he began playing,
and my immediate process of conjuring a "story" & lyrics to fit his
homage to a Confederate era melody... but, yes, must keep on it,
thanks.
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
I thought the conversation we had over one of my poems for the
"April Blog" was also here, but it seems I may have been mistaken.
You can have your choice of poems, or i also have an interesting idea
you might want to try.
You've got me intrigued. I'd like to hear your idea.
It may not be that special of an idea, and depends somewhat on which
poem you decide you want to use, which is hard for me to second-guess.
One that would work with this idea is

She Sleeps Tight / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:

http://youtu.be/9uGY157cpiU

She Sleeps Tight

Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.

Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.

Won't be long,
until I see her face.
She's waiting
in an undisclosed place.
I've been conspired
banned from my muse.

This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.

In Salem town
she keeps her chin so high.
Darkened breeze
she smiles as I roll by.
Step inside
she looks for tables left.

Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.

Like a Steamboat
she plans to roll on down.
To the Gulf
out of this dirty town.
Copper mesh
kept stuffed in a jar.

Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.

We know him
eye deed by his ship.
In a trap
a kind of goosechase trip.
Whiskey fumes
and stale gunsmoke.

Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.

Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.

-Will Dockery

One advantage/additional whatever that this one or several others have
is that the music video can be embedded directly on the blog page:

<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/
html" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/
9uGY157cpiU" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>
Post by George Dance
--
http://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery
George Dance
2011-01-31 16:18:34 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
-Will Dockery
<snip for focus>
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
"Always There."
Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.
Sort of the way we handle things best vis-a-vis humor, et cetera...
the deadpan C&W tragedy that Corey may have nailed in my style.
Post by George Dance
For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
I'd like very much to have the opportunity to have a shot at that
one... is "Always There" already in the archives, here?
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/always-there-george-dance.html
Okay...
Did Henry ever get to see AT? You mentioned you wanted to come up with
a basic melody as well.
I don't want this to fall in a crack, and I realize it's my
responsibility; hence I'll have to keep on at you about it.
Please do, because I really think this one can be good. In a recent
post, I mentioned that I brought it up, and began the task of trying
to explain you, how I know you, and so on... imagine H.C. someone who
knows almost nothing about Usenet, except that he "don't like it".
Then we got sidetracked on this old sounding melody he began playing,
and my immediate process of conjuring a "story" & lyrics to fit his
homage to a Confederate era melody... but, yes, must keep on it,
thanks.
Tell you what. Next time you're on facebook, suggest him as a friend
to me. Then I can message him, ask him to read AT, and tell me what he
thinks. He might or he might not; either way, I don't think he'd mind
my doing that. Then we can go on from there.
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
I thought the conversation we had over one of my poems for the
"April Blog" was also here, but it seems I may have been mistaken.
You can have your choice of poems, or i also have an interesting idea
you might want to try.
You've got me intrigued. I'd like to hear your idea.
It may not be that special of an idea, and depends somewhat on which
poem you decide you want to use, which is hard for me to second-guess.
One that would work with this idea is
http://youtu.be/9uGY157cpiU
She Sleeps Tight
Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Won't be long,
until I see her face.
She's waiting
in an undisclosed place.
I've been conspired
banned from my muse.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
In Salem town
she keeps her chin so high.
Darkened breeze
she smiles as I roll by.
Step inside
she looks for tables left.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Like a Steamboat
she plans to roll on down.
To the Gulf
out of this dirty town.
Copper mesh
kept stuffed in a jar.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
We know him
eye deed by his ship.
In a trap
a kind of goosechase trip.
Whiskey fumes
and stale gunsmoke.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.
-Will Dockery
One advantage/additional whatever that this one or several others have
<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/
html" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/
9uGY157cpiU" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>
Post by George Dance
--
http://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery
Yes! I hadn't been thinking of using one of your song lyrics at all -
but I do like the idea of embedding a video. I've never done it, but
as you describe it it looks pretty easy. Let's go with that.

I do need your input on the song lyrics, but I'd like to pick the one
that I think works the best as a poem written down on and read off of
a page. Would you agree to this:

You send me a short list of five songs, with lyrics or without (I can
search), either here or in another post. Then I will pick one from
that for April. Sound good?
Will Dockery
2011-01-31 16:34:59 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
-Will Dockery
<snip for focus>
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
"Always There."
Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.
Sort of the way we handle things best vis-a-vis humor, et cetera...
the deadpan C&W tragedy that Corey may have nailed in my style.
Post by George Dance
For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
I'd like very much to have the opportunity to have a shot at that
one... is "Always There" already in the archives, here?
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/always-there-george-dance.html
Okay...
Did Henry ever get to see AT? You mentioned you wanted to come up with
a basic melody as well.
I don't want this to fall in a crack, and I realize it's my
responsibility; hence I'll have to keep on at you about it.
Please do, because I really think this one can be good. In a recent
post, I mentioned that I brought it up, and began the task of trying
to explain you, how I know you, and so on... imagine H.C. someone who
knows almost nothing about Usenet, except that he "don't like it".
Then we got sidetracked on this old sounding melody he began playing,
and my immediate process of conjuring a "story" & lyrics to fit his
homage to a Confederate era melody... but, yes, must keep on it,
thanks.
Tell you what. Next time you're on facebook, suggest him as a friend
to me. Then I can message him, ask him to read AT, and tell me what he
thinks. He might or he might not; either way, I don't think he'd mind
my doing that. Then we can go on from there.
I'll do that, then he'll get a grasp easier of "who" you are.
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
I thought the conversation we had over one of my poems for the
"April Blog" was also here, but it seems I may have been mistaken.
You can have your choice of poems, or i also have an interesting idea
you might want to try.
You've got me intrigued. I'd like to hear your idea.
It may not be that special of an idea, and depends somewhat on which
poem you decide you want to use, which is hard for me to second-guess.
One that would work with this idea is
http://youtu.be/9uGY157cpiU
She Sleeps Tight
Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Won't be long,
until I see her face.
She's waiting
in an undisclosed place.
I've been conspired
banned from my muse.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
In Salem town
she keeps her chin so high.
Darkened breeze
she smiles as I roll by.
Step inside
she looks for tables left.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Like a Steamboat
she plans to roll on down.
To the Gulf
out of this dirty town.
Copper mesh
kept stuffed in a jar.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
We know him
eye deed by his ship.
In a trap
a kind of goosechase trip.
Whiskey fumes
and stale gunsmoke.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.
-Will Dockery
One advantage/additional whatever that this one or several others have
<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/
html" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/
9uGY157cpiU" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>
Post by George Dance
--
http://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery
Yes! I hadn't been thinking of using one of your song lyrics at all -
but I do like the idea of embedding a video. I've never done it, but
as you describe it it looks pretty easy. Let's go with that.
Very easy, just a matter of copy-and-paste. Here's the one for "She
Sleeps Tight", maybe make a test page for it and see how it works.
Should be able to paste this right in and it embeds:

<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/
html" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/
9uGY157cpiU" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>
Post by George Dance
I do need your input on the song lyrics, but I'd like to pick the one
that I think works the best as a poem written down on and read off of
You send me a short list of five songs, with lyrics or without (I can
search), either here or in another post. Then I will pick one from
that for April. Sound good?
Yes, sounds like a good plan for this year... I'll either propose
poemsongs here, or elsewhere.

--
She Sleeps Tight / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://youtu.be/9uGY157cpiU
George Dance
2011-02-01 18:15:15 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
-Will Dockery
<snip for focus>
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
"Always There."
Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.
Sort of the way we handle things best vis-a-vis humor, et cetera...
the deadpan C&W tragedy that Corey may have nailed in my style.
Post by George Dance
For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
I'd like very much to have the opportunity to have a shot at that
one... is "Always There" already in the archives, here?
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/always-there-george-dance.html
Okay...
Did Henry ever get to see AT? You mentioned you wanted to come up with
a basic melody as well.
I don't want this to fall in a crack, and I realize it's my
responsibility; hence I'll have to keep on at you about it.
Please do, because I really think this one can be good. In a recent
post, I mentioned that I brought it up, and began the task of trying
to explain you, how I know you, and so on... imagine H.C. someone who
knows almost nothing about Usenet, except that he "don't like it".
Then we got sidetracked on this old sounding melody he began playing,
and my immediate process of conjuring a "story" & lyrics to fit his
homage to a Confederate era melody... but, yes, must keep on it,
thanks.
Tell you what. Next time you're on facebook, suggest him as a friend
to me. Then I can message him, ask him to read AT, and tell me what he
thinks. He might or he might not; either way, I don't think he'd mind
my doing that. Then we can go on from there.
I'll do that, then he'll get a grasp easier of "who" you are.
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
I thought the conversation we had over one of my poems for the
"April Blog" was also here, but it seems I may have been mistaken.
You can have your choice of poems, or i also have an interesting idea
you might want to try.
You've got me intrigued. I'd like to hear your idea.
It may not be that special of an idea, and depends somewhat on which
poem you decide you want to use, which is hard for me to second-guess.
One that would work with this idea is
http://youtu.be/9uGY157cpiU
She Sleeps Tight
Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Won't be long,
until I see her face.
She's waiting
in an undisclosed place.
I've been conspired
banned from my muse.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
In Salem town
she keeps her chin so high.
Darkened breeze
she smiles as I roll by.
Step inside
she looks for tables left.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Like a Steamboat
she plans to roll on down.
To the Gulf
out of this dirty town.
Copper mesh
kept stuffed in a jar.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
We know him
eye deed by his ship.
In a trap
a kind of goosechase trip.
Whiskey fumes
and stale gunsmoke.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.
-Will Dockery
One advantage/additional whatever that this one or several others have
<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/
html" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/
9uGY157cpiU" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>
Post by George Dance
--
http://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery
Yes! I hadn't been thinking of using one of your song lyrics at all -
but I do like the idea of embedding a video. I've never done it, but
as you describe it it looks pretty easy. Let's go with that.
Very easy, just a matter of copy-and-paste. Here's the one for "She
Sleeps Tight", maybe make a test page for it and see how it works.
<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/
html" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/
9uGY157cpiU" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>
Post by George Dance
I do need your input on the song lyrics, but I'd like to pick the one
that I think works the best as a poem written down on and read off of
You send me a short list of five songs, with lyrics or without (I can
search), either here or in another post. Then I will pick one from
that for April. Sound good?
Yes, sounds like a good plan for this year... I'll either propose
poemsongs here, or elsewhere.
Just remember to remind me that's what they're for at the time; I'll
put the list together and pick one when there are 5 on it.
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2011-02-02 15:41:57 UTC
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Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
-Will Dockery
<snip for focus>
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
"Always There."
Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
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Post by George Dance
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.
Sort of the way we handle things best vis-a-vis humor, et cetera...
the deadpan C&W tragedy that Corey may have nailed in my style.
Post by George Dance
For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
I'd like very much to have the opportunity to have a shot at that
one... is "Always There" already in the archives, here?
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/always-there-george-dance.html
Okay...
Did Henry ever get to see AT? You mentioned you wanted to come up with
a basic melody as well.
I don't want this to fall in a crack, and I realize it's my
responsibility; hence I'll have to keep on at you about it.
Please do, because I really think this one can be good. In a recent
post, I mentioned that I brought it up, and began the task of trying
to explain you, how I know you, and so on... imagine H.C. someone who
knows almost nothing about Usenet, except that he "don't like it".
Then we got sidetracked on this old sounding melody he began playing,
and my immediate process of conjuring a "story" & lyrics to fit his
homage to a Confederate era melody... but, yes, must keep on it,
thanks.
Tell you what. Next time you're on facebook, suggest him as a friend
to me. Then I can message him, ask him to read AT, and tell me what he
thinks. He might or he might not; either way, I don't think he'd mind
my doing that. Then we can go on from there.
I'll do that, then he'll get a grasp easier of "who" you are.
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
I thought the conversation we had over one of my poems for the
"April Blog" was also here, but it seems I may have been mistaken.
You can have your choice of poems, or i also have an interesting idea
you might want to try.
You've got me intrigued. I'd like to hear your idea.
It may not be that special of an idea, and depends somewhat on which
poem you decide you want to use, which is hard for me to second-guess.
One that would work with this idea is
http://youtu.be/9uGY157cpiU
She Sleeps Tight
Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Won't be long,
until I see her face.
She's waiting
in an undisclosed place.
I've been conspired
banned from my muse.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
In Salem town
she keeps her chin so high.
Darkened breeze
she smiles as I roll by.
Step inside
she looks for tables left.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Like a Steamboat
she plans to roll on down.
To the Gulf
out of this dirty town.
Copper mesh
kept stuffed in a jar.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
We know him
eye deed by his ship.
In a trap
a kind of goosechase trip.
Whiskey fumes
and stale gunsmoke.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.
-Will Dockery
One advantage/additional whatever that this one or several others have
<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/
html" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/
9uGY157cpiU" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>
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--
http://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery
Yes! I hadn't been thinking of using one of your song lyrics at all -
but I do like the idea of embedding a video. I've never done it, but
as you describe it it looks pretty easy. Let's go with that.
Very easy, just a matter of copy-and-paste. Here's the one for "She
Sleeps Tight", maybe make a test page for it and see how it works.
<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/
html" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/
9uGY157cpiU" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>
Post by George Dance
I do need your input on the song lyrics, but I'd like to pick the one
that I think works the best as a poem written down on and read off of
You send me a short list of five songs, with lyrics or without (I can
search), either here or in another post. Then I will pick one from
that for April. Sound good?
Yes, sounds like a good plan for this year... I'll either propose
poemsongs here, or elsewhere.
Just remember to remind me that's what they're for at the time; I'll
put the list together and pick one when there are 5 on it.
Okay, for that reason I might keep it here, or for that reason I might
put them onto another thread... whichever one seems easiest to
remember.

--
First track of the T.O.T.M. (Theatre Of The Mind) film, the opening
credits (Sonica):

Post by George Dance
--
http://youtu.be/9uGY157cpiU
George Dance
2011-02-02 16:49:50 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Decima
Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.
-Will Dockery
<snip for focus>
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
"Always There."
Like CW, it's a country song; but unlike CW, which is
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
more a parody, AT is a sincere one with a simple Hank Williams Sr.-
type melody.
Sort of the way we handle things best vis-a-vis humor, et cetera...
the deadpan C&W tragedy that Corey may have nailed in my style.
Post by George Dance
For both those, as I've said, you have freedom to add lyrics and list
yourself as a co-writer of same. The only condition is I have to
approve them, meaning they'd (probably) have to scan as well as, and
(certainly) be consistent in voice with, the rest of the piece.
I'd like very much to have the opportunity to have a shot at that
one... is "Always There" already in the archives, here?
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/always-there-george-dance.html
Okay...
Did Henry ever get to see AT? You mentioned you wanted to come up with
a basic melody as well.
I don't want this to fall in a crack, and I realize it's my
responsibility; hence I'll have to keep on at you about it.
Please do, because I really think this one can be good. In a recent
post, I mentioned that I brought it up, and began the task of trying
to explain you, how I know you, and so on... imagine H.C. someone who
knows almost nothing about Usenet, except that he "don't like it".
Then we got sidetracked on this old sounding melody he began playing,
and my immediate process of conjuring a "story" & lyrics to fit his
homage to a Confederate era melody... but, yes, must keep on it,
thanks.
Tell you what. Next time you're on facebook, suggest him as a friend
to me. Then I can message him, ask him to read AT, and tell me what he
thinks. He might or he might not; either way, I don't think he'd mind
my doing that. Then we can go on from there.
I'll do that, then he'll get a grasp easier of "who" you are.
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
I thought the conversation we had over one of my poems for the
"April Blog" was also here, but it seems I may have been mistaken.
You can have your choice of poems, or i also have an interesting idea
you might want to try.
You've got me intrigued. I'd like to hear your idea.
It may not be that special of an idea, and depends somewhat on which
poem you decide you want to use, which is hard for me to second-guess.
One that would work with this idea is
http://youtu.be/9uGY157cpiU
She Sleeps Tight
Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Won't be long,
until I see her face.
She's waiting
in an undisclosed place.
I've been conspired
banned from my muse.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
In Salem town
she keeps her chin so high.
Darkened breeze
she smiles as I roll by.
Step inside
she looks for tables left.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Like a Steamboat
she plans to roll on down.
To the Gulf
out of this dirty town.
Copper mesh
kept stuffed in a jar.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
We know him
eye deed by his ship.
In a trap
a kind of goosechase trip.
Whiskey fumes
and stale gunsmoke.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.
-Will Dockery
One advantage/additional whatever that this one or several others have
<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/
html" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/
9uGY157cpiU" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>
Post by George Dance
--
http://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery
Yes! I hadn't been thinking of using one of your song lyrics at all -
but I do like the idea of embedding a video. I've never done it, but
as you describe it it looks pretty easy. Let's go with that.
Very easy, just a matter of copy-and-paste. Here's the one for "She
Sleeps Tight", maybe make a test page for it and see how it works.
<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/
html" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/
9uGY157cpiU" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>
Post by George Dance
I do need your input on the song lyrics, but I'd like to pick the one
that I think works the best as a poem written down on and read off of
You send me a short list of five songs, with lyrics or without (I can
search), either here or in another post. Then I will pick one from
that for April. Sound good?
Yes, sounds like a good plan for this year... I'll either propose
poemsongs here, or elsewhere.
Just remember to remind me that's what they're for at the time; I'll
put the list together and pick one when there are 5 on it.
Okay, for that reason I might keep it here, or for that reason I might
put them onto another thread... whichever one seems easiest to
remember.
Sure; different threads, facebook, email, whatever. Just as long as I
know it's for the shortlist.
Post by Will Dockery
--
First track of the T.O.T.M. (Theatre Of The Mind) film, the opening
credits http://youtu.be/m74FXooKalA
Post by George Dance
--
http://youtu.be/9uGY157cpiU
Will Dockery
2011-02-02 17:08:23 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/9uGY157cpiU
She Sleeps Tight
Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Won't be long,
until I see her face.
She's waiting
in an undisclosed place.
I've been conspired
banned from my muse.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
In Salem town
she keeps her chin so high.
Darkened breeze
she smiles as I roll by.
Step inside
she looks for tables left.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Like a Steamboat
she plans to roll on down.
To the Gulf
out of this dirty town.
Copper mesh
kept stuffed in a jar.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
We know him
eye deed by his ship.
In a trap
a kind of goosechase trip.
Whiskey fumes
and stale gunsmoke.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.
-Will Dockery
<snip>
Post by George Dance
Sure; different threads, facebook, email, whatever. Just as long as I
know it's for the shortlist.
Next one, & perhaps an obvious one (for historical value) might be
"Red Lipped Stranger", which evolved Transformatively, from the
"Workers Don't Dream" collab project of last year:

http://youtu.be/qBhcN1WK144

Red Lipped Stranger

Her creep crawls
the narrow stairway
of the Candlelight Motel
to watch for her
from a window.

Rethinking
his infatuation
but clinging
to his vision of her
as the red lipped stranger.

Downstairs
the desk clerk's cat
slithers through
the service entrance.

The vampirate
on a motorbike
passes below
to the westbound bridge
werewolf on her back.

Jennifer at riverbend
watches gunboats
smacks her foot
on the bright red clay.

Jennifer gives good lyric
she wrote this poem
she's no bum.

But she's not there
on the other side
of the greenish wall.

Through a three-inch-wall
he hears
bedsprings rattle
rustle of dry-hump,
some guy's mumbles.

Hears the fat blonde waitress
whip it in bondage
the sounds
lull him to sleep.

The hand of Uncle Sugar
still taking notes
as a new standard bearer
hands out trophies
to the winners.

His trillion dollar gash
flakes from the bone
as gravity tears
a pound of dust.

Clings to a picture book
the missing part of himself
as if perpetually
anchored
to his invisible erection.

At Lucky Seven Lounge
she tries
not to reveal herself
but she stubbornly clutches
her empty shoes.

Something
seems missing
in the broad daylight
when the details
are displayed.

All that remains are
her flat black hat
her oversized lantern
her broken laptop.

No poor boy on the street
can speak of her
or the island on the river.
Or about her return...
her resurrection.

-Will Dockery

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2011-02-02 17:52:56 UTC
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http://youtu.be/9uGY157cpiU
She Sleeps Tight
Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Won't be long,
until I see her face.
She's waiting
in an undisclosed place.
I've been conspired
banned from my muse.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
In Salem town
she keeps her chin so high.
Darkened breeze
she smiles as I roll by.
Step inside
she looks for tables left.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Like a Steamboat
she plans to roll on down.
To the Gulf
out of this dirty town.
Copper mesh
kept stuffed in a jar.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
We know him
eye deed by his ship.
In a trap
a kind of goosechase trip.
Whiskey fumes
and stale gunsmoke.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.
-Will Dockery
<snip>
Post by George Dance
Sure; different threads, facebook, email, whatever. Just as long as I
know it's for the shortlist.
Next one, & perhaps an obvious one (for historical value) might be
"Red Lipped Stranger", which evolved Transformatively, from the
http://youtu.be/qBhcN1WK144
Red Lipped Stranger
Her creep crawls
the narrow stairway
of the Candlelight Motel
to watch for her
from a window.
Rethinking
his infatuation
but clinging
to his vision of her
as the red lipped stranger.
Downstairs
the desk clerk's cat
slithers through
the service entrance.
The vampirate
on a motorbike
passes below
to the westbound bridge
werewolf on her back.
Jennifer at riverbend
watches gunboats
smacks her foot
on the bright red clay.
Jennifer gives good lyric
she wrote this poem
she's no bum.
But she's not there
on the other side
of the greenish wall.
Through a three-inch-wall
he hears
bedsprings rattle
rustle of dry-hump,
some guy's mumbles.
Hears the fat blonde waitress
whip it in bondage
the sounds
lull him to sleep.
The hand of Uncle Sugar
still taking notes
as a new standard bearer
hands out trophies
to the winners.
His trillion dollar gash
flakes from the bone
as gravity tears
a pound of dust.
Clings to a picture book
the missing part of himself
as if perpetually
anchored
to his invisible erection.
At Lucky Seven Lounge
she tries
not to reveal herself
but she stubbornly clutches
her empty shoes.
Something
seems missing
in the broad daylight
when the details
are displayed.
All that remains are
her flat black hat
her oversized lantern
her broken laptop.
No poor boy on the street
can speak of her
or the island on the river.
Or about her return...
her resurrection.
-Will Dockery
<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/
html" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/
qBhcN1WK144" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>
OK; this is one that's always intrigued me because of 1) the allusions
to "the workers" and even more so 2) the absence of rhyme and meter --
I'd have no idea, looking at the text, that RLS was a song.

If I go with this one, though, I'd insist on the spelling
'vampirette'. Maybe that's just me (as with 'mannikin/mannequin'), but
whatever; that's the way I'd like to see it. Does that work for you?
Will Dockery
2011-02-02 19:35:41 UTC
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Post by Cythera
<snip>
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/9uGY157cpiU
She Sleeps Tight
Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Won't be long,
until I see her face.
She's waiting
in an undisclosed place.
I've been conspired
banned from my muse.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
In Salem town
she keeps her chin so high.
Darkened breeze
she smiles as I roll by.
Step inside
she looks for tables left.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Like a Steamboat
she plans to roll on down.
To the Gulf
out of this dirty town.
Copper mesh
kept stuffed in a jar.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
We know him
eye deed by his ship.
In a trap
a kind of goosechase trip.
Whiskey fumes
and stale gunsmoke.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.
-Will Dockery
<snip>
Post by George Dance
Sure; different threads, facebook, email, whatever. Just as long as I
know it's for the shortlist.
Next one, & perhaps an obvious one (for historical value) might be
"Red Lipped Stranger", which evolved Transformatively, from the
http://youtu.be/qBhcN1WK144
Red Lipped Stranger
Her creep crawls
the narrow stairway
of the Candlelight Motel
to watch for her
from a window.
Rethinking
his infatuation
but clinging
to his vision of her
as the red lipped stranger.
Downstairs
the desk clerk's cat
slithers through
the service entrance.
The vampirate
on a motorbike
passes below
to the westbound bridge
werewolf on her back.
Jennifer at riverbend
watches gunboats
smacks her foot
on the bright red clay.
Jennifer gives good lyric
she wrote this poem
she's no bum.
But she's not there
on the other side
of the greenish wall.
Through a three-inch-wall
he hears
bedsprings rattle
rustle of dry-hump,
some guy's mumbles.
Hears the fat blonde waitress
whip it in bondage
the sounds
lull him to sleep.
The hand of Uncle Sugar
still taking notes
as a new standard bearer
hands out trophies
to the winners.
His trillion dollar gash
flakes from the bone
as gravity tears
a pound of dust.
Clings to a picture book
the missing part of himself
as if perpetually
anchored
to his invisible erection.
At Lucky Seven Lounge
she tries
not to reveal herself
but she stubbornly clutches
her empty shoes.
Something
seems missing
in the broad daylight
when the details
are displayed.
All that remains are
her flat black hat
her oversized lantern
her broken laptop.
No poor boy on the street
can speak of her
or the island on the river.
Or about her return...
her resurrection.
-Will Dockery
<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/
html" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/
qBhcN1WK144" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>
OK; this is one that's always intrigued me because of 1) the allusions
to "the workers" and even more so 2) the absence of rhyme and meter --
I'd have no idea, looking at the text, that RLS was a song.
If I go with this one, though, I'd insist on the spelling
'vampirette'. Maybe that's just me (as with 'mannikin/mannequin'), but
whatever; that's the way I'd like to see it. Does that work for you?
I don't know about that, since changing that word would really blow
the slant rhyme I have right after that. Maybe, but I'd have to think
it over some.

But...

I notice that I really sing "Vampire-Ite" rather than "Vam-Pirate"
there.

Then again... the image of a pirate chick on a little scooter is based
on a real life moment, and someone I know, so I might have to hold off
and offer you another poem... changing it would cause me more problems
than it would solve for you.

--
First track of the T.O.T.M. (Theatre Of The Mind) film, the opening
credits (Sonica):
http://youtu.be/m74FXooKalA

George Dance
2011-01-02 18:53:58 UTC
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Hey, that reminds me of somehing you once posted but quickly deleted
before I could respond, something about recording my readings of your poetry?
Yeah, sure whatever.  You could do that too.  No worries.
Okay, something to discuss in 2011...
You'll have to be a bit more specific.  We can discuss it now, or we
can wait a while.  For my part, I'd be honored if you'd read and/or
record anything I've written.  Whatever sense you can make of any of
my gobbledy-poems is fine by me.  If you want to read them serious, or
all ironical like is entirely up to you.  I've posted stuff here, and
there's stuff on my blog.  Anything you take a fancy to, please help
yourself.  If you want some help or suggestions, just say so, but I
know you'll do a great job with them either way.  Thanks for your time.
Well, since you put it that way, I am encouraged to ask you for a poem
for April magazine, 2011.
I've picked out a poem, that (AFAIK) is not on the web (except for
google's usenet archive, of course); so my printing it would be one
way of getting it read, even if only by an 'anemic' or s/t readership.
I certainly think the poem is worth reading.
c&c
2011-01-02 22:33:24 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Hey, that reminds me of somehing you once posted but quickly deleted
before I could respond, something about recording my readings of your poetry?
Yeah, sure whatever.  You could do that too.  No worries.
Okay, something to discuss in 2011...
You'll have to be a bit more specific.  We can discuss it now, or we
can wait a while.  For my part, I'd be honored if you'd read and/or
record anything I've written.  Whatever sense you can make of any of
my gobbledy-poems is fine by me.  If you want to read them serious, or
all ironical like is entirely up to you.  I've posted stuff here, and
there's stuff on my blog.  Anything you take a fancy to, please help
yourself.  If you want some help or suggestions, just say so, but I
know you'll do a great job with them either way.  Thanks for your time.
Well, since you put it that way, I am encouraged to ask you for a poem
for April magazine, 2011.
I've picked out a poem, that (AFAIK) is not on the web (except for
google's usenet archive, of course); so my printing it would be one
way of getting it read, even if only by an 'anemic' or s/t readership.
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George, I'm not familiar with April magazine. I assume you mean your
blog. I'm glad you found something of mine that you like. Although
publication requests are usually a private matter, if you think
something I've written and posted here can help you and your little
publication, then I say go for it; help yourself; be my guest; have at
it. I hope this makes my position clear on the matter. Thanks for
your time.
George Dance
2011-01-02 22:38:21 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Hey, that reminds me of somehing you once posted but quickly deleted
before I could respond, something about recording my readings of your poetry?
Yeah, sure whatever.  You could do that too.  No worries.
Okay, something to discuss in 2011...
You'll have to be a bit more specific.  We can discuss it now, or we
can wait a while.  For my part, I'd be honored if you'd read and/or
record anything I've written.  Whatever sense you can make of any of
my gobbledy-poems is fine by me.  If you want to read them serious, or
all ironical like is entirely up to you.  I've posted stuff here, and
there's stuff on my blog.  Anything you take a fancy to, please help
yourself.  If you want some help or suggestions, just say so, but I
know you'll do a great job with them either way.  Thanks for your time.
Well, since you put it that way, I am encouraged to ask you for a poem
for April magazine, 2011.
I've picked out a poem, that (AFAIK) is not on the web (except for
google's usenet archive, of course); so my printing it would be one
way of getting it read, even if only by an 'anemic' or s/t readership.
I certainly think the poem is worth reading.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
George,  I'm not familiar with April magazine.  I assume you mean your
blog.  I'm glad you found something of mine that you like.  Although
publication requests are usually a private matter, if you think
something I've written and posted here can help you and your little
publication, then I say go for it; help yourself; be my guest; have at
it.  I hope this makes my position clear on the matter.  Thanks for
your time.
Yes, it's the series of new or current poems I publish on the blog
during April. Thank you for the permission.
c&c
2011-01-02 22:41:23 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Hey, that reminds me of somehing you once posted but quickly deleted
before I could respond, something about recording my readings of your poetry?
Yeah, sure whatever.  You could do that too.  No worries.
Okay, something to discuss in 2011...
You'll have to be a bit more specific.  We can discuss it now, or we
can wait a while.  For my part, I'd be honored if you'd read and/or
record anything I've written.  Whatever sense you can make of any of
my gobbledy-poems is fine by me.  If you want to read them serious, or
all ironical like is entirely up to you.  I've posted stuff here, and
there's stuff on my blog.  Anything you take a fancy to, please help
yourself.  If you want some help or suggestions, just say so, but I
know you'll do a great job with them either way.  Thanks for your time.
Well, since you put it that way, I am encouraged to ask you for a poem
for April magazine, 2011.
I've picked out a poem, that (AFAIK) is not on the web (except for
google's usenet archive, of course); so my printing it would be one
way of getting it read, even if only by an 'anemic' or s/t readership.
I certainly think the poem is worth reading.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
George,  I'm not familiar with April magazine.  I assume you mean your
blog.  I'm glad you found something of mine that you like.  Although
publication requests are usually a private matter, if you think
something I've written and posted here can help you and your little
publication, then I say go for it; help yourself; be my guest; have at
it.  I hope this makes my position clear on the matter.  Thanks for
your time.
Yes, it's the series of new or current poems I publish on the blog
during April. Thank you for the permission.- Hide quoted text -
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No worries. By the way, which poem did you want to use?
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